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Surely you mean this peace that ended when Russia started a full-scale invasion in Ukraine.

Dalewyn 3y ago
I've come to think that the so-called "most peaceful era in human history" as the post-Cold War era has been often called is more aptly "most peaceful era in western history". Plenty of strife and conflict can be and are found where most western eyes generally don't look.
chx 3y ago
This peace, by and large, is about the lack of entries with other Western European countries on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Germany By that measure, you'd consider the peace ended in 1956 when Russia -- then called the Soviet Union -- re-invaded Hungary after very briefly withdrawing. (As an aside, when the National Bank of Ukraine last year opened two donation accounts, I sent 1956 EUR to both. I am not subtle with my messaging.)
- tuukkah 3y ago
  I don't know what 1956 felt like in western Europe but the current situation definitely doesn't feel like peace even though the war is not fought in western Europe. The war is at the EU border with stray missiles and overreaching Russian attacks already having hit EU territory.
  - justsomehnguy 3y ago
    > Russian attacks already having hit EU territory. On 15 November 2022, a missile struck the territory of Poland at the village of Przewodów near the border with Ukraine, killing two people.[1][2][3] ... It was the first incident of a missile (vis-a-vis prior UAV incursions) fired from Ukrainian army[6] landing and exploding within NATO territory ... Initially Ukraine accused Russia of striking Poland,[9] while United States claimed that the missile was likely to have been an air defence missile fired by Ukrainian forces at an incoming Russian missile.[10][11][12] This was later confirmed in September 2023 by the Polish Prosecutor's Office, which stated that the explosion was caused by an out of control air-defence missile S-300.[6][13]
    - tuukkah 3y ago
      Right, that falls under the "stray missiles" category.
rbanffy 3y ago
Neither Russia nor Ukraine are members of the EU.
- tuukkah 3y ago
  >> Almost all of us in Europe have never known anything but this peace > Neither Russia nor Ukraine are members of the EU. Europe != EU Also, explosives from the Russian invasion in Ukraine have hit the territories of two EU countries: Poland and Romania.

I've come to think that the so-called "most peaceful era in human history" as the post-Cold War era has been often called is more aptly "most peaceful era in western history". Plenty of strife and conflict can be and are found where most western eyes generally don't look.

chx 3y ago

This peace, by and large, is about the lack of entries with other Western European countries on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Germany https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_Germany By that measure, you'd consider the peace ended in 1956 when Russia -- then called the Soviet Union -- re-invaded Hungary after very briefly withdrawing. (As an aside, when the National Bank of Ukraine last year opened two donation accounts, I sent 1956 EUR to both. I am not subtle with my messaging.)

tuukkah 3y ago
I don't know what 1956 felt like in western Europe but the current situation definitely doesn't feel like peace even though the war is not fought in western Europe. The war is at the EU border with stray missiles and overreaching Russian attacks already having hit EU territory.
- justsomehnguy 3y ago
  > Russian attacks already having hit EU territory. On 15 November 2022, a missile struck the territory of Poland at the village of Przewodów near the border with Ukraine, killing two people.[1][2][3] ... It was the first incident of a missile (vis-a-vis prior UAV incursions) fired from Ukrainian army[6] landing and exploding within NATO territory ... Initially Ukraine accused Russia of striking Poland,[9] while United States claimed that the missile was likely to have been an air defence missile fired by Ukrainian forces at an incoming Russian missile.[10][11][12] This was later confirmed in September 2023 by the Polish Prosecutor's Office, which stated that the explosion was caused by an out of control air-defence missile S-300.[6][13]
  - tuukkah 3y ago
    Right, that falls under the "stray missiles" category.

rbanffy 3y ago

Neither Russia nor Ukraine are members of the EU.

tuukkah 3y ago
>> Almost all of us in Europe have never known anything but this peace > Neither Russia nor Ukraine are members of the EU. Europe != EU Also, explosives from the Russian invasion in Ukraine have hit the territories of two EU countries: Poland and Romania.