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“reverting back to prudeness” is a matter of perspective. We’re a species that has domesticated itself for its collective good. Part of making progress towards

“reverting back to prudeness” is a matter of perspective. We’re a species that has domesticated itself for its collective good. Part of making progress towards that was changing our approach to mating from a free-for-all to something strictly regulated by culture. It could be said that we’ve been reverting back to our pre-civilisation free-for-all for the last 60+ years.

wkat4242 3y ago
I don't really care about our species. More about self discovery without artificial social taboos. Mating was so regulated by culture (mostly religion though) due to the obvious link to the procreation thing, but these days those are no longer coupled so the taboos aren't necessary.
- kelipso 3y ago
  > I don't really care about our species. People would be smart to ignore you then.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    That's fine, our species is still growing by the billions so enough people are taking care of that. They don't seem to take care of leaving the planet habitable though, which is IMO a much more urgent problem than any perceived social decline.
- SpaghettiCthulu 3y ago
  It sounds like you need to discover something bigger than yourself.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    I like discovering other communities but not our species as a whole. In fact it makes me pretty depressed reading the news lol. We're not very good at looking after ourselves or the planet.
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- otabdeveloper4 3y ago
  > artificial social taboos Like consent? The "I do" in the marriage isn't a romantic gesture, it's a legally binding contract for consent to sexual relations. Society has accidentally rediscovered that marriage is the only way to have sex that isn't technically rape.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    > Society has accidentally rediscovered that marriage is the only way to have sex that isn't technically rape. Ehhh no. Simply asking for an explicit yes is fine here too by law. Of course taking into account that this can be revoked at any time and must be obeyed. And even within marriage it's not legal to force someone to have sex. At least here in Spain it's much more about spending ones life together, shared ownership and parenthood etc than about sex. Of course you wouldn't marry someone you don't ever want to have sex with but it doesn't mean you are obliged to do so. Marital rape is unfortunately a thing. On the other hand, open marriages are also a thing. I often engage in sexual practices with married people with the spouse even present (and often active with someone else). It's not rape :). Just harmless and fully consensual fun. Consent is actually a huge thing in the more promiscuous communities these days. Often people even make contracts (though this is more common in BDSM than in the Swinger community)
    - otabdeveloper4 3y ago
      > I asked her verbally and pretty sure I didn't hear her revoking anything during the fifth stroke Ehh, good luck with that in a court of law.
      - wkat4242 3y ago
        I don't need to be in a court of law because I respect people's consent even if they withdraw it.
        otabdeveloper4 3y ago
        "Don't be a dick and just have a good vibe" is not valid legal advice.

wkat4242 3y ago

I don't really care about our species. More about self discovery without artificial social taboos. Mating was so regulated by culture (mostly religion though) due to the obvious link to the procreation thing, but these days those are no longer coupled so the taboos aren't necessary.

kelipso 3y ago
> I don't really care about our species. People would be smart to ignore you then.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  That's fine, our species is still growing by the billions so enough people are taking care of that. They don't seem to take care of leaving the planet habitable though, which is IMO a much more urgent problem than any perceived social decline.
SpaghettiCthulu 3y ago
It sounds like you need to discover something bigger than yourself.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  I like discovering other communities but not our species as a whole. In fact it makes me pretty depressed reading the news lol. We're not very good at looking after ourselves or the planet.
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otabdeveloper4 3y ago
> artificial social taboos Like consent? The "I do" in the marriage isn't a romantic gesture, it's a legally binding contract for consent to sexual relations. Society has accidentally rediscovered that marriage is the only way to have sex that isn't technically rape.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  > Society has accidentally rediscovered that marriage is the only way to have sex that isn't technically rape. Ehhh no. Simply asking for an explicit yes is fine here too by law. Of course taking into account that this can be revoked at any time and must be obeyed. And even within marriage it's not legal to force someone to have sex. At least here in Spain it's much more about spending ones life together, shared ownership and parenthood etc than about sex. Of course you wouldn't marry someone you don't ever want to have sex with but it doesn't mean you are obliged to do so. Marital rape is unfortunately a thing. On the other hand, open marriages are also a thing. I often engage in sexual practices with married people with the spouse even present (and often active with someone else). It's not rape :). Just harmless and fully consensual fun. Consent is actually a huge thing in the more promiscuous communities these days. Often people even make contracts (though this is more common in BDSM than in the Swinger community)
  - otabdeveloper4 3y ago
    > I asked her verbally and pretty sure I didn't hear her revoking anything during the fifth stroke Ehh, good luck with that in a court of law.
    - wkat4242 3y ago
      I don't need to be in a court of law because I respect people's consent even if they withdraw it.
      - otabdeveloper4 3y ago
        "Don't be a dick and just have a good vibe" is not valid legal advice.