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I love Gruber's take: > All those developers complaining about Apple’s 70/30 split for App Store revenue should take note: even Google only gets a 64/36 split

by internet2000 3y ago

I love Gruber's take: > All those developers complaining about Apple’s 70/30 split for App Store revenue should take note: even Google only gets a 64/36 split for search.

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danShumway 3y ago
Isn't this kind of suggesting the opposite? Google's payments are being brought up in a trial where the government is suggesting that 36% is a massive amount of money to pay and is evidence of Google's willingness to pay billions of dollars and a massive percentage of their search revenue just to maintain a monopoly over iOS search. The followup question is, if 36% of Safari search revenue is the cost of buying a search monopoly on iPhone, and if that's considered to be such a large amount of money to pay that it's evidence of how much Google values being the default search on iOS, then are developers getting something equivalent for their 30%? App developers pay 30% of their iOS revenue and they get way fewer benefits. If 36% is the price of a monopoly, iOS has got developers paying 30% just for access to the platform. But maybe if devs paid an extra 6% Apple would install them by default on every iPhone? The iOS app store is a separate conversation and I don't think it should be compared to Google's payments. The context of both payment structures is different, and I don't want to act like they are directly comparable. But it is weird to me that anyone would suggest that comparing them somehow makes the app store payments look good. You're paying monopoly-level prices just to be listed on the store; if you're comparing the two then Google is getting a much better deal here than iOS developers are getting. I mean, heck, I'll pay Apple 36% of all iOS revenue I ever make if they're willing to make my apps the default out-of-the-box experience on every single phone that they sell.

I love Gruber's take: > All those developers complaining about Apple’s 70/30 split for App Store revenue should take note: even Google only gets a 64/36 split for search.

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danShumway 3y ago

Isn't this kind of suggesting the opposite? Google's payments are being brought up in a trial where the government is suggesting that 36% is a massive amount of money to pay and is evidence of Google's willingness to pay billions of dollars and a massive percentage of their search revenue just to maintain a monopoly over iOS search. The followup question is, if 36% of Safari search revenue is the cost of buying a search monopoly on iPhone, and if that's considered to be such a large amount of money to pay that it's evidence of how much Google values being the default search on iOS, then are developers getting something equivalent for their 30%? App developers pay 30% of their iOS revenue and they get way fewer benefits. If 36% is the price of a monopoly, iOS has got developers paying 30% just for access to the platform. But maybe if devs paid an extra 6% Apple would install them by default on every iPhone? The iOS app store is a separate conversation and I don't think it should be compared to Google's payments. The context of both payment structures is different, and I don't want to act like they are directly comparable. But it is weird to me that anyone would suggest that comparing them somehow makes the app store payments look good. You're paying monopoly-level prices just to be listed on the store; if you're comparing the two then Google is getting a much better deal here than iOS developers are getting. I mean, heck, I'll pay Apple 36% of all iOS revenue I ever make if they're willing to make my apps the default out-of-the-box experience on every single phone that they sell.