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What are the common types of food waste that can be feed to insects but not directly to farmed animals?

pvg 3y ago
Poop. But it already takes piles of infrastructure to handle.
swatcoder 3y ago
I don't know what they use at industrial scale, but you can already do this at home scale. Soldier fly larva will happily crunch away all the moldy or rotting household food waste you throw into a cold compost, but good luck getting a chicken to voluntarily eat much of it (and they'd probably get sick pretty often if they tried). I assume industrial operations work essentially the same way, making use of the countless waste streams that livestock either won't consume or can't safely consume. The bigger question for me is how they harvest at that scale. The hearsay I carry around in my head is that they just drown insect crops in chemical pesticide to harvest them, which I'm hoping is not the norm.
- BWStearns 3y ago
  > The bigger question for me is how they harvest at that scale What about just heating up or cooling down the space they're in beyond their tolerances?
  - tantalor 3y ago
    Extreme temperature change could ruin the final products. I'd flood the bioreactor with inert gas. Nitrogen ought to do it and we got plenty of it. Edit: this company actually advertises that: Pure nitrogen is used to control the growth rate before harvesting. https://www.concoa.com/applications/bioreactors https://www.concoa.com/applications/bioreactors
- gorlilla 3y ago
  They're grown in factory conditions much like how we grow fish in closed synthetic systems. Your concern isn't so much about how they do it, it's about the regulations and how well they end up being enforced. Admittedly, humans have a poor track record for getting that stuff right the first go-'round
- janj 3y ago
  > good luck getting a chicken to voluntarily eat much of it (and they'd probably get sick pretty often if they tried) I've had a cold compost as a part of my backyard chicken coop for many years. All kitchen scraps, as well as all yard waste, ends up there. Moldy fruit, veggies, breads, literally everything including things like turkey carcass after Thanksgiving. I've never had a chicken get sick off it and the food scraps are quickly either consumed or dug into the pile, no rotting mess. Every spring I dig it all out for the garden. It works out great.
dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago
Think about where you find maggots.
- gorlilla 3y ago
  I would imagine that opportunistic, omnivorous eaters have a higher likelihood of passing a parasite over some insect that only feeds on live/fresh plant materials.

pvg 3y ago

Poop. But it already takes piles of infrastructure to handle.

I don't know what they use at industrial scale, but you can already do this at home scale. Soldier fly larva will happily crunch away all the moldy or rotting household food waste you throw into a cold compost, but good luck getting a chicken to voluntarily eat much of it (and they'd probably get sick pretty often if they tried). I assume industrial operations work essentially the same way, making use of the countless waste streams that livestock either won't consume or can't safely consume. The bigger question for me is how they harvest at that scale. The hearsay I carry around in my head is that they just drown insect crops in chemical pesticide to harvest them, which I'm hoping is not the norm.

BWStearns 3y ago
> The bigger question for me is how they harvest at that scale What about just heating up or cooling down the space they're in beyond their tolerances?
- tantalor 3y ago
  Extreme temperature change could ruin the final products. I'd flood the bioreactor with inert gas. Nitrogen ought to do it and we got plenty of it. Edit: this company actually advertises that: Pure nitrogen is used to control the growth rate before harvesting. https://www.concoa.com/applications/bioreactors https://www.concoa.com/applications/bioreactors
gorlilla 3y ago
They're grown in factory conditions much like how we grow fish in closed synthetic systems. Your concern isn't so much about how they do it, it's about the regulations and how well they end up being enforced. Admittedly, humans have a poor track record for getting that stuff right the first go-'round
janj 3y ago
> good luck getting a chicken to voluntarily eat much of it (and they'd probably get sick pretty often if they tried) I've had a cold compost as a part of my backyard chicken coop for many years. All kitchen scraps, as well as all yard waste, ends up there. Moldy fruit, veggies, breads, literally everything including things like turkey carcass after Thanksgiving. I've never had a chicken get sick off it and the food scraps are quickly either consumed or dug into the pile, no rotting mess. Every spring I dig it all out for the garden. It works out great.

dkjaudyeqooe 3y ago

Think about where you find maggots.

gorlilla 3y ago
I would imagine that opportunistic, omnivorous eaters have a higher likelihood of passing a parasite over some insect that only feeds on live/fresh plant materials.