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If I put myself in the shoes of someone who listens to and enjoys rap/hip-hop music, is a soccer enthusiast, or has tattoos, I would take the original comment a
by tcgv 3y ago
If I put myself in the shoes of someone who listens to and enjoys rap/hip-hop music, is a soccer enthusiast, or has tattoos, I would take the original comment as offensive. The main point could have been made without disparaging remarks.
> we all behave as if bias, discrimination, and stereotyping are inherently bad things. No, they’re the result of human biology optimizing for pattern matching and recognizing those patterns.
From an evolutionary perspective, I agree. In ancient times, this trait must have been really important for survival. But in our modern society, we are past that point, and the way we communicate and perpetuate stereotypes can have detrimental effects on interactions between different groups within our society, so even if it's still useful in some contexts, we should take it with caution.
- Shamu 3y ago> In ancient times, this trait must have been really important for survival. But in our modern society, we are past that point Citation needed.
- tcgv 3y agoFrom "Evolutionary Approaches to Stereotyping and Prejudice" [1]: > "An evolutionary approach thus (a) seriously considers the possibility that prejudices, stereotyping, stereotypes, and discrimination are in some aspects evolved adaptations, like the inclination to avoid dangerous animals." > "For instance, individuals inclined to avoid predatory beasts were more likely than those without this inclination to survive such encounters, thereby increasing the likelihood they would successfully reproduce. To the extent that this avoidance inclination had a genetic component, and that the benefits of avoiding such animals existed for a long enough period of time, modern humans would come to be characterized by this avoidance adaptation and the cognitive and emotional inclinations causally linked to it." The "we are past that point" remark refers to the fact that in our modern society we are no longer subject to "dangerous animals" or "predatory beasts" in our daily lives, in the literal sense. [1] https://bpb-us-e2.wpmucdn.com/faculty.sites.uci.edu/dist/1/850/files/2019/08/Sng-Williams-Neuberg-2016-Handbook-Chapter.pdf https://bpb-us-e2.wpmucdn.com/faculty.sites.uci.edu/dist/1/8...
- kelipso 3y agoYou think humans didn't evolve against dangerous humans? Even discounting physical violence (ridiculous notion), you still have scammers and con artists who can ruin your entire life.
- tcgv 3y agoEvolution is a genetic process that favors the traits and characteristics that enhance an organism's ability to survive and reproduce in its specific environment. To say that 'pacific' humans evolved against 'dangerous' humans, or the other way around, would require much reasearch and consideration. Not to say that evolution is a very slow process, it operates on a timescale that spans millions of years.
- kelipso 3y agoYeah thanks for defining evolution, very helpful. Why do elks have horns? You think intrasexual competition never existed? You think inter family and inter tribal fights never happened? You think violence doesn't happen today? That humans don't try to fuck each other over today? To put it nicely, delusional.
- tcgv 3y agoHi. If you don't make a point, an argument, bring facts, and instead only asks questions, then you are "Gish Galloping" [1] PS: I will refrain from continuing this conversation since I detect sarcarm and a passive agressive tone in your message. Thanks. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gish_gallop
- kelipso 3y agoPlease do refrain from this conversation because you have missed the plot completely. To point out just how bad your reading comprehension is, I am not gish galloping, I am very very obviously asking rhetorical questions.