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The biggest potential outcome of this trial is that the Google-Apple deal is deemed illegal and maybe that forces Apple to buy or build their own search engine.

The biggest potential outcome of this trial is that the Google-Apple deal is deemed illegal and maybe that forces Apple to buy or build their own search engine. There is clearly no real competition in search, and just because Google’s stagnant product is currently the “best” doesn’t excuse the ways in which it continues to degrade in quality and become more user-hostile.

r00fus 3y ago
Apple is not going into search any time soon. It could mean they take a greater interest in DDG, Bing, etc.
- franczesko 3y ago
  DDG is Bing. They use their API
- emmet 3y ago
  DDG is dreadful if you aren’t in America. They have to be content with ruining search results for the rest of the world, which I somehow doubt.
  - kelipso 3y ago
    I'm in the US and DDG is my default because privacy or something but pretty much any remotely complex query, I end up switching to google and get way better results.
  - kiwijamo 3y ago
    I am in New Zealand and I find DDG works well. I switched from Google several years ago and whenever I accidently use Google (e.g. on a new device) I must say I wasn't impressed with the quality of Google's results -- DDG is easily on par or even better.
- CPLX 3y ago
  Worth mentioning Kagi. I’m a paying customer and it’s routinely better than Google, it’s now my default. If it wasn’t for maps I’m not sure how much I would use Google at all any more.
summerlight 3y ago
> The biggest potential outcome of this trial is that the Google-Apple deal is deemed illegal It's going to be a very hard fight to render the deal itself illegal without a very specific, targeted legislation.
layer8 3y ago
The only thing they would conceivably be forced to is to present a default search engine selection screen when setting up a new device.
SSLy 3y ago
> The biggest potential outcome of this trial is that the Google-Apple deal is deemed illegal and maybe that forces Apple to buy or build their own search engine. They're already on it for many years. What do you think the spotlight web suggestions, including direct link to the site if the match is good are?

r00fus 3y ago

Apple is not going into search any time soon. It could mean they take a greater interest in DDG, Bing, etc.

franczesko 3y ago
DDG is Bing. They use their API
emmet 3y ago
DDG is dreadful if you aren’t in America. They have to be content with ruining search results for the rest of the world, which I somehow doubt.
- kelipso 3y ago
  I'm in the US and DDG is my default because privacy or something but pretty much any remotely complex query, I end up switching to google and get way better results.
- kiwijamo 3y ago
  I am in New Zealand and I find DDG works well. I switched from Google several years ago and whenever I accidently use Google (e.g. on a new device) I must say I wasn't impressed with the quality of Google's results -- DDG is easily on par or even better.
CPLX 3y ago
Worth mentioning Kagi. I’m a paying customer and it’s routinely better than Google, it’s now my default. If it wasn’t for maps I’m not sure how much I would use Google at all any more.

summerlight 3y ago

> The biggest potential outcome of this trial is that the Google-Apple deal is deemed illegal It's going to be a very hard fight to render the deal itself illegal without a very specific, targeted legislation.

layer8 3y ago

The only thing they would conceivably be forced to is to present a default search engine selection screen when setting up a new device.

SSLy 3y ago

> The biggest potential outcome of this trial is that the Google-Apple deal is deemed illegal and maybe that forces Apple to buy or build their own search engine. They're already on it for many years. What do you think the spotlight web suggestions, including direct link to the site if the match is good are?