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AlmaLinux 9.3 Stable

49 points by izzdrasil 3y ago

Yasuraka 3y ago
The split from replicating RHEL exactly ("bug for bug") to binary compatibility stung at first, but by now I feel like it might have been better after all like ripping off an overdue band-aid. That said I hope we're in for at least half a decade of stability and peace amongst the RHELoids
- candiddevmike 3y ago
  > That said I hope we're in for at least half a decade of stability and peace amongst the RHELoids Probably best to either pay for RHEL or move to a different distro. They've proven multiple times now that they don't care for free derivatives, and they're willing to squeeze blood from stone to get subscriptions. On the plus side, other distro support among COTS has never been better. Kubernetes or Docker is the new target, not RHEL.
  - gbraad 3y ago
    Just one example: FIPS compliance is very relevant: RHEL has, k8s by itself does not. And many more...
- brnt 3y ago
  Instead of praying RH won't alter the deal further, why not take control definitively and use a democratic distro like Debian? Why keep subjugating the continuity of your business like this?
  - Yasuraka 3y ago
    I'm just running stuff at home and it mostly doesn't matter, at work it's whatever the client uses. I vastly prefer Fedora to testing@Debian or God forbid Ubuntu and would like to use the same environment in a server distro too
- InitEnabler 3y ago
  I always had this thought that maybe it would be better to fork entirely but not be bug-for-bug compatible. That way Alma and Rocky can find a base that they both agree on but maybe have different development cycles.
cozzyd 3y ago
I'm considering elevate-ing my workstation from Alma8 to Alma9 sometime soon. Maybe this is a good reason as any to do it...
cvccvroomvroom 3y ago
Don't. Just don't. While Alma and Rocky promise the moon of 10 years of support and unreproachable governance, they are slow and inconsistent about releasing security fixes while CentOS 9 Stream releases them fast. Neither has the professionalism, track record, or deep benches of engineering teams to sustain themselves in the long term. I suspect neither Alma nor Rocky will survive 10 years.
- PlutoIsAPlanet 3y ago
  I wouldn't rely on CentOS Stream either due to the bad record RH has had in the last couple years of pulling the rug.
- jmnicolas 3y ago
  How is it different than Redhat promising 10 years of support for Centos 8 then leaving me stranded?

49 points by izzdrasil 3y ago

The split from replicating RHEL exactly ("bug for bug") to binary compatibility stung at first, but by now I feel like it might have been better after all like ripping off an overdue band-aid. That said I hope we're in for at least half a decade of stability and peace amongst the RHELoids

candiddevmike 3y ago
> That said I hope we're in for at least half a decade of stability and peace amongst the RHELoids Probably best to either pay for RHEL or move to a different distro. They've proven multiple times now that they don't care for free derivatives, and they're willing to squeeze blood from stone to get subscriptions. On the plus side, other distro support among COTS has never been better. Kubernetes or Docker is the new target, not RHEL.
- gbraad 3y ago
  Just one example: FIPS compliance is very relevant: RHEL has, k8s by itself does not. And many more...
brnt 3y ago
Instead of praying RH won't alter the deal further, why not take control definitively and use a democratic distro like Debian? Why keep subjugating the continuity of your business like this?
- Yasuraka 3y ago
  I'm just running stuff at home and it mostly doesn't matter, at work it's whatever the client uses. I vastly prefer Fedora to testing@Debian or God forbid Ubuntu and would like to use the same environment in a server distro too
InitEnabler 3y ago
I always had this thought that maybe it would be better to fork entirely but not be bug-for-bug compatible. That way Alma and Rocky can find a base that they both agree on but maybe have different development cycles.

cozzyd 3y ago

I'm considering elevate-ing my workstation from Alma8 to Alma9 sometime soon. Maybe this is a good reason as any to do it...

cvccvroomvroom 3y ago

Don't. Just don't. While Alma and Rocky promise the moon of 10 years of support and unreproachable governance, they are slow and inconsistent about releasing security fixes while CentOS 9 Stream releases them fast. Neither has the professionalism, track record, or deep benches of engineering teams to sustain themselves in the long term. I suspect neither Alma nor Rocky will survive 10 years.

PlutoIsAPlanet 3y ago
I wouldn't rely on CentOS Stream either due to the bad record RH has had in the last couple years of pulling the rug.
jmnicolas 3y ago
How is it different than Redhat promising 10 years of support for Centos 8 then leaving me stranded?