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LA is a big place, and includes suburbs. If they're gonna do that, they'll have to add more transit to these areas. But for places with existing transit, yeah

LA is a big place, and includes suburbs. If they're gonna do that, they'll have to add more transit to these areas. But for places with existing transit, yeah I agree.

ravetcofx 3y ago
Chicken and egg problem, less demand for transit and improving it if there's more people driving (and parking)
jedberg 3y ago
I grew up in LA and have visited many times since. The biggest change is from Uber/Lyft. You no longer need a DD or nearly as much parking, now that you can just pay someone to take you around. It's not as good as transit, but it's a good stopgap to solve the problem until there is a bunch of housing without parking and the need for transit increases.
- mdorazio 3y ago
  FYI, Uber/Lyft are massively more expensive than owning your own vehicle or using public transit (3x-4x the cost) if you need to go places regularly. They are currently not a viable solution for lower income residents of most cities.
  - jedberg 3y ago
    Of course not, you're paying for the driver's time. That's why I said it's a viable stopgap for some people, but hopefully enough people to drive demand for better transit.
  - bluGill 3y ago
    Taxis (which is all uber/lyft is) are are useful for cases where you mostly do not need to own a vehicle, but once in a rare while need to go someplace that your other alternatives don't work for.
  - scottyah 3y ago
    Rideshares (aka carpooling, not a separate paid-for service) for long distances, and bicycles for short distances are great ways to drastically increase mobility for cheap. The only time you don't get a "viable solution for lower income residents of most cities" is when you try to place a residence stupidly far from work.
  - testfrequency 3y ago
    What a subjective thing to say so confidently. I didn’t pay for a car for years as it would have been more expensive to maintain and own a vehicle - but I guess you know my finances somehow
kurthr 3y ago
Well, there is a bus stop 5 blocks away under the I10 overpass, which has service nominally once an hour. Maps says that it will only take 5 hours to get to your job in Culver city. Good thing you don't need parking any more.

LA is a big place, and includes suburbs. If they're gonna do that, they'll have to add more transit to these areas. But for places with existing transit, yeah I agree.

ravetcofx 3y ago

Chicken and egg problem, less demand for transit and improving it if there's more people driving (and parking)

jedberg 3y ago

I grew up in LA and have visited many times since. The biggest change is from Uber/Lyft. You no longer need a DD or nearly as much parking, now that you can just pay someone to take you around. It's not as good as transit, but it's a good stopgap to solve the problem until there is a bunch of housing without parking and the need for transit increases.

mdorazio 3y ago
FYI, Uber/Lyft are massively more expensive than owning your own vehicle or using public transit (3x-4x the cost) if you need to go places regularly. They are currently not a viable solution for lower income residents of most cities.
- jedberg 3y ago
  Of course not, you're paying for the driver's time. That's why I said it's a viable stopgap for some people, but hopefully enough people to drive demand for better transit.
- bluGill 3y ago
  Taxis (which is all uber/lyft is) are are useful for cases where you mostly do not need to own a vehicle, but once in a rare while need to go someplace that your other alternatives don't work for.
- scottyah 3y ago
  Rideshares (aka carpooling, not a separate paid-for service) for long distances, and bicycles for short distances are great ways to drastically increase mobility for cheap. The only time you don't get a "viable solution for lower income residents of most cities" is when you try to place a residence stupidly far from work.
- testfrequency 3y ago
  What a subjective thing to say so confidently. I didn’t pay for a car for years as it would have been more expensive to maintain and own a vehicle - but I guess you know my finances somehow

kurthr 3y ago

Well, there is a bus stop 5 blocks away under the I10 overpass, which has service nominally once an hour. Maps says that it will only take 5 hours to get to your job in Culver city. Good thing you don't need parking any more.