And inhospitable. Don't forget about that one. I'm not one of the anti car people. But they make a good point. If you live in any sort of populated area that d

And inhospitable. Don't forget about that one. I'm not one of the anti car people. But they make a good point. If you live in any sort of populated area that doesn't have a subway, every attempt to move any considerable distance is going to be unduly stressful. The flip side is, if you live in a sparsely populated area, cars are a lifeline. I understand why people want to at least get rid of architectures that create car dependence. Sometimes it's unavoidable, you live 30 miles from a grocery store. Other times it's unavoidable for a different reason, because your entire environment is paved over, and that really sucks.