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No criticism because teenagers do dumb things, but for anyone else it should be assumed that if you break into a system without permission, benignly or not, you

No criticism because teenagers do dumb things, but for anyone else it should be assumed that if you break into a system without permission, benignly or not, you run the risk of getting prosecuted for it.

geek_at 3y ago
Oh yes. In 2011 I got raided by the police because I clicked a link someone sent me over IRC [1]. You don't even need to be destructive to become a target for prosecution sometimes. Being stupid or incautious is enough. [1] https://blog.haschek.at/2015-that-not-so-awesome-time-the-police/ https://blog.haschek.at/2015-that-not-so-awesome-time-the-po...
- waihtis 3y ago
  I vaguely recall this case. I sure hope police have become more cyber literate in the past 10 years, but yeah this is the virtual equivalent of leaving fingerprints on the crime scene.
- onionisafruit 3y ago
  After reading your story, the image at the bottom stands out. I never thought about the fact that you can’t really trust that what is returned to you is the same as what they took. No telling if they added any malware to those drives intentionally or not.
- __s 3y ago
  > Don't click on links from random people on the internet! Ironic since I ended up on your blog after clicking on link you posted
- valvar 3y ago
  Is there no way to contest such a warrant? What about compensation for the loss of utility caused by the confiscation?
fm2606 3y ago
Threat of prosecution can come even without breaking in. Vengeful and ignorant people will always be a thing. [1] Missouri's governor threatened legal action against a reporter who found SSN were being leaked on a public web page accessible simply by clicking "View Source". The reporter "followed standard protocols for disclosing and reporting on the vulnerability, the governor is treating him as if he attacked the site or was trying to access the teacher’s private information for nefarious purposes" . This pisses me off on so many different levels. The reporter told proper authorities and gave them time to fix it before he made the information public but MO's jack-wagon of a governor tried to pin blame on the reporter. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/14/22726866/missouri-governor-department-elementary-secondary-education-ssn-vulnerability-disclosure https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/14/22726866/missouri-govern...
- AlecSchueler 3y ago
  Threat of prosecution is of course always present, but the chance of that prosecution making it past the courts is significantly altered by actually committing the acts you might be accused of.
- autoexec 3y ago
  That should have been a carer ending move. According to wikipedia that jackass Mike Parson can't run again and will be replaced (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Missouri_gubernatorial_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Missouri_gubernatorial_el...). I don't have much faith in Missouri to do better with their next election, but I'd be thrilled to be surprised.

geek_at 3y ago

Oh yes. In 2011 I got raided by the police because I clicked a link someone sent me over IRC [1]. You don't even need to be destructive to become a target for prosecution sometimes. Being stupid or incautious is enough. [1] https://blog.haschek.at/2015-that-not-so-awesome-time-the-police/ https://blog.haschek.at/2015-that-not-so-awesome-time-the-po...

waihtis 3y ago
I vaguely recall this case. I sure hope police have become more cyber literate in the past 10 years, but yeah this is the virtual equivalent of leaving fingerprints on the crime scene.
onionisafruit 3y ago
After reading your story, the image at the bottom stands out. I never thought about the fact that you can’t really trust that what is returned to you is the same as what they took. No telling if they added any malware to those drives intentionally or not.
__s 3y ago
> Don't click on links from random people on the internet! Ironic since I ended up on your blog after clicking on link you posted
valvar 3y ago
Is there no way to contest such a warrant? What about compensation for the loss of utility caused by the confiscation?

fm2606 3y ago

Threat of prosecution can come even without breaking in. Vengeful and ignorant people will always be a thing. [1] Missouri's governor threatened legal action against a reporter who found SSN were being leaked on a public web page accessible simply by clicking "View Source". The reporter "followed standard protocols for disclosing and reporting on the vulnerability, the governor is treating him as if he attacked the site or was trying to access the teacher’s private information for nefarious purposes" . This pisses me off on so many different levels. The reporter told proper authorities and gave them time to fix it before he made the information public but MO's jack-wagon of a governor tried to pin blame on the reporter. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/14/22726866/missouri-governor-department-elementary-secondary-education-ssn-vulnerability-disclosure https://www.theverge.com/2021/10/14/22726866/missouri-govern...

AlecSchueler 3y ago
Threat of prosecution is of course always present, but the chance of that prosecution making it past the courts is significantly altered by actually committing the acts you might be accused of.
autoexec 3y ago
That should have been a carer ending move. According to wikipedia that jackass Mike Parson can't run again and will be replaced (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Missouri_gubernatorial_election https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Missouri_gubernatorial_el...). I don't have much faith in Missouri to do better with their next election, but I'd be thrilled to be surprised.