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Not bad. But I wonder why they went for 7840HS, instead of the lower TDP 7840u. Spec wise this one is quite close to lenovo t14s/p14s gen 4, which can also be

by Epa095 3y ago

Not bad. But I wonder why they went for 7840HS, instead of the lower TDP 7840u. Spec wise this one is quite close to lenovo t14s/p14s gen 4, which can also be configured with a similar screen (there is also the yoga slim 7 gen 8, but it has a glossy screen).

fyrn_ 3y ago
This config is GPU-less so it has the thermal / power budget to handle it. It's kind of meant as developer machine. As far as I can tell the trend was first started by the Mechrevo code 01. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-4000-mechrevo-laptop-arrives-without-discrete-gpu https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-4000-mechrevo-la... Which actually got a decent amount of press have some initial Twitter hype. Several other Clevo based brands followed like Tuxedo and XMG. Not sure that Clevo actually intended it as a dev focused config originally, but they definitely leaned into it with later revisions after they saw the enthusiasm. Not for everyone, personally the Framework 16 appeals a lot more to me (I've preorded), but when I was in college the pure CPU maximization probably would have won me over.
- lhl 3y ago
  The Mechrevo Code 01 was a Tong Fang ODM chassis. XMG/Tuxedo (sister companies) have varying laptop models from both Tong Fang (Uniwill now?) and Clevo. Historically, a lot of devs using Linux laptops have preferred iGPU models both to maximize useful perf/watt (dGPUs models tended to drain power much faster even when idle) and b/c most dGPU laptops are Nvidia-based and the driver issues used to be terrible. I wonder if that calculus will be changing now w/ local LLM code-helpers and other AI apps benefit greatly from stronger GPUs.
lhl 3y ago
It might come down to availability, although in general I prefer the higher wattage chips since they will usually have higher specced cooling and if you want to lower power consumption, you can use a tool like ryzenadj to lower power limits (but usually not increase power, which is usually hardware locked).

by Epa095 3y ago

fyrn_ 3y ago

This config is GPU-less so it has the thermal / power budget to handle it. It's kind of meant as developer machine. As far as I can tell the trend was first started by the Mechrevo code 01. https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-4000-mechrevo-laptop-arrives-without-discrete-gpu https://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-ryzen-4000-mechrevo-la... Which actually got a decent amount of press have some initial Twitter hype. Several other Clevo based brands followed like Tuxedo and XMG. Not sure that Clevo actually intended it as a dev focused config originally, but they definitely leaned into it with later revisions after they saw the enthusiasm. Not for everyone, personally the Framework 16 appeals a lot more to me (I've preorded), but when I was in college the pure CPU maximization probably would have won me over.

lhl 3y ago
The Mechrevo Code 01 was a Tong Fang ODM chassis. XMG/Tuxedo (sister companies) have varying laptop models from both Tong Fang (Uniwill now?) and Clevo. Historically, a lot of devs using Linux laptops have preferred iGPU models both to maximize useful perf/watt (dGPUs models tended to drain power much faster even when idle) and b/c most dGPU laptops are Nvidia-based and the driver issues used to be terrible. I wonder if that calculus will be changing now w/ local LLM code-helpers and other AI apps benefit greatly from stronger GPUs.

lhl 3y ago

It might come down to availability, although in general I prefer the higher wattage chips since they will usually have higher specced cooling and if you want to lower power consumption, you can use a tool like ryzenadj to lower power limits (but usually not increase power, which is usually hardware locked).