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My dorm building in college had eight entrances, of which two were handicap accessible. University administration declared that from now on, 100% of doors on c

My dorm building in college had eight entrances, of which two were handicap accessible. University administration declared that from now on, 100% of doors on campus must be handicap accessible. A week later, six doors were removed from my building...

CSMastermind 3y ago
Saving this one to my collection of bureaucracy anecdotes
- eitally 3y ago
  Try this one on for size: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/03/06/u-california-berkeley-delete-publicly-available-educational-content https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/03/06/u-california-...
Seattle3503 3y ago
In defense of the school, this forces everyone to confront how bad handicap accessibility is. Before, only a minority of people had to deal with only having two entrances available, so nothing was going to force the issue.
- pjio 3y ago
  On one side yes, on the other side those two entrances are now more crowded, making it even worse for handicapped people, possibly for the time to come.
- gameman144 3y ago
  Did anything actually force the issue though? The comment said that they closed the other six doors, but I don't see any implication that people pushed back in any way that improved the new two-door situation.
- tivert 3y ago
  >> University administration declared that from now on, 100% of doors on campus must be handicap accessible. >> A week later, six doors were removed from my building... > In defense of the school, this forces everyone to confront how bad handicap accessibility is. No, that can't be a defense of the school. The decision-makers could have decided to make improvements so at least some of those six doors became handicap accessible, but they didn't. Instead they decided to take a cheap action that imposed costs on others in order to make an empty statement.
- prirun 3y ago
  > My dorm building in college had eight entrances, of which two were handicap accessible. Around 13% of Americans have disabilities according to Google. 25% of the doors at this school were handicap accessible. I don't get "how bad handicap accessibility is" from this example. Closing 6 doors to comply with a policy of course is completely stupid.
- cameldrv 3y ago
  Handicap accessibility in the U.S. is the best in the world.
tivert 3y ago
My employer recently implemented "all gender bathrooms." All that meant was a couple new signs and disabling and taping off all the urinals. So now 75% of the toilets are permanently out of service and there's more pee on the seats.
- unixhero 3y ago
  Yep and then eventually you get WOMEN ONLY sections of the room any ways
  - ehPReth 3y ago
    wait, what?
    - inemesitaffia 3y ago
      There's rules vs conventions
    - unixhero 3y ago
      They women use get to use both, W, Male Female and Male Men have to make do with the ones delegated Male and Male Female. I have seen this in airports, nightclubs, office buildings.

CSMastermind 3y ago

Saving this one to my collection of bureaucracy anecdotes

eitally 3y ago
Try this one on for size: https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/03/06/u-california-berkeley-delete-publicly-available-educational-content https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2017/03/06/u-california-...

Seattle3503 3y ago

In defense of the school, this forces everyone to confront how bad handicap accessibility is. Before, only a minority of people had to deal with only having two entrances available, so nothing was going to force the issue.

pjio 3y ago
On one side yes, on the other side those two entrances are now more crowded, making it even worse for handicapped people, possibly for the time to come.
gameman144 3y ago
Did anything actually force the issue though? The comment said that they closed the other six doors, but I don't see any implication that people pushed back in any way that improved the new two-door situation.
tivert 3y ago
>> University administration declared that from now on, 100% of doors on campus must be handicap accessible. >> A week later, six doors were removed from my building... > In defense of the school, this forces everyone to confront how bad handicap accessibility is. No, that can't be a defense of the school. The decision-makers could have decided to make improvements so at least some of those six doors became handicap accessible, but they didn't. Instead they decided to take a cheap action that imposed costs on others in order to make an empty statement.
prirun 3y ago
> My dorm building in college had eight entrances, of which two were handicap accessible. Around 13% of Americans have disabilities according to Google. 25% of the doors at this school were handicap accessible. I don't get "how bad handicap accessibility is" from this example. Closing 6 doors to comply with a policy of course is completely stupid.
cameldrv 3y ago
Handicap accessibility in the U.S. is the best in the world.

tivert 3y ago

My employer recently implemented "all gender bathrooms." All that meant was a couple new signs and disabling and taping off all the urinals. So now 75% of the toilets are permanently out of service and there's more pee on the seats.

unixhero 3y ago
Yep and then eventually you get WOMEN ONLY sections of the room any ways
- ehPReth 3y ago
  wait, what?
  - inemesitaffia 3y ago
    There's rules vs conventions
  - unixhero 3y ago
    They women use get to use both, W, Male Female and Male Men have to make do with the ones delegated Male and Male Female. I have seen this in airports, nightclubs, office buildings.