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I’m less upset about people begging for bounties than I am learning that leaking children’s voice recordings isn’t an instant deathblow to a company.

thaumasiotes 3y ago
Why would it be? Say you film your kid's birthday party and put it up on youtube. You just leaked voice recordings of a lot of other children. What's the harm supposed to be?
- Frivolous9421 3y ago
  Feel like recording intimate moments like that should just about be a crime at this point. Sick of every dicknose with an iPhone trying to "remember" a group dinner
  - thaumasiotes 3y ago
    Before we make it a crime, should we have a theory of the harm it inflicts?
    - Frivolous9421 3y ago
      Face recognition. In terms of govt scale intelligence, and increasingly just plain OSINT. Not everyone is as tight with their pictures as you are, they probably auto upload them on Google Photos or Dropbox or something. You are now irreversibly linked to everyone else in that photo who probably has social media profiles, public contact emails, show up on people search websites etc. I don't want to cause problems for you just because someone wants to blackmail me. I also don't want you to tell people where I live because someone broke into your house and is removing your toenails with a pair of pliers. Subjective opinion time, I just think it's lame. I don't sit back and reminisce over pictures. I don't want to be in your group picture. I want to hang out with the people in the group and have a laugh.
- duskwuff 3y ago
  As of 2013, COPPA specifically defines recordings of a child's voice as a type of "personal information" about the child; as a result, operators of online services "directed at children" are required to get parental consent to collect that information, and are required to protect it appropriately. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2012/12/ftc-strengthens-kids-privacy-gives-parents-greater-control-over-their-information-amending-childrens https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2012/12/...
  - thaumasiotes 3y ago
    If the only problem with something is that it's illegal, why not stop making it illegal?
lost_tourist 3y ago
what are kids voicing that should result in the firing of thousands or even tens of thousands of adults because a corporation got dissolved? Seems a bit overboard

thaumasiotes 3y ago

Why would it be? Say you film your kid's birthday party and put it up on youtube. You just leaked voice recordings of a lot of other children. What's the harm supposed to be?

Frivolous9421 3y ago
Feel like recording intimate moments like that should just about be a crime at this point. Sick of every dicknose with an iPhone trying to "remember" a group dinner
- thaumasiotes 3y ago
  Before we make it a crime, should we have a theory of the harm it inflicts?
  - Frivolous9421 3y ago
    Face recognition. In terms of govt scale intelligence, and increasingly just plain OSINT. Not everyone is as tight with their pictures as you are, they probably auto upload them on Google Photos or Dropbox or something. You are now irreversibly linked to everyone else in that photo who probably has social media profiles, public contact emails, show up on people search websites etc. I don't want to cause problems for you just because someone wants to blackmail me. I also don't want you to tell people where I live because someone broke into your house and is removing your toenails with a pair of pliers. Subjective opinion time, I just think it's lame. I don't sit back and reminisce over pictures. I don't want to be in your group picture. I want to hang out with the people in the group and have a laugh.
duskwuff 3y ago
As of 2013, COPPA specifically defines recordings of a child's voice as a type of "personal information" about the child; as a result, operators of online services "directed at children" are required to get parental consent to collect that information, and are required to protect it appropriately. https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2012/12/ftc-strengthens-kids-privacy-gives-parents-greater-control-over-their-information-amending-childrens https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2012/12/...
- thaumasiotes 3y ago
  If the only problem with something is that it's illegal, why not stop making it illegal?

lost_tourist 3y ago

what are kids voicing that should result in the firing of thousands or even tens of thousands of adults because a corporation got dissolved? Seems a bit overboard