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there is not much wrong with unchecked growth. Apple has added a ton of value to society

CuriouslyC 3y ago
Apple's market cap has increased almost 4000% since the release of the iphone. What have the contributed to society since then, nicer iphones? A watch that's mostly a clunky status symbol for affluent techies? Hyper-expensive VR goggles used by nobody? It doesn't seem like allowing that unchecked growth has really paid off in terms of benefit to society. I think taxes that greatly reduced that growth would have paid for countless hospitals, scholarships, aid to the poor, etc.
- Apocryphon 3y ago
  They financed Scorsese’s new picture
- Invictus0 3y ago
  When the iPhone was released, Apple had sold 0 iPhones. Since then, Apple has sold over 1.5 billion iPhones. Your position is that Apple produces no value for society?
  - CuriouslyC 3y ago
    If apple stopped existing shortly after android phones became available, everyone would just be using android phones now and the tears would be long in the past.
- imiric 3y ago
  You're ignoring the amount of their products used by professionals. Apple is the dominant brand in media production and IT alone, and its role in powering these fields is unquantifiable. I don't use Apple products, and the fact corporations abuse legal loop holes to evade taxes sickens me, but it's a huge leap to claim a company like Apple hasn't made substantial contributions to society.
tester756 3y ago
What? What values apple brought to society that other phone makers wouldnt? Especially in Europe where e.g iPhones arent that popular
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  All of my non English speaking grandparents and great grandparents who are not familiar with computers were able to use FaceTime to video call with all the kids. And we tried with Nexus devices and non Apple solutions first, but the iPad mini and iPad Air is what worked to give them troubleshoot free, consistent ability to video call people.
specialist 3y ago
And society added a ton of value to Apple.
siquick 3y ago
What’s the definition of value here? You’d have a hard time arguing that touch screen phones have been a net positive on societies well being.

Apple's market cap has increased almost 4000% since the release of the iphone. What have the contributed to society since then, nicer iphones? A watch that's mostly a clunky status symbol for affluent techies? Hyper-expensive VR goggles used by nobody? It doesn't seem like allowing that unchecked growth has really paid off in terms of benefit to society. I think taxes that greatly reduced that growth would have paid for countless hospitals, scholarships, aid to the poor, etc.

Apocryphon 3y ago
They financed Scorsese’s new picture
Invictus0 3y ago
When the iPhone was released, Apple had sold 0 iPhones. Since then, Apple has sold over 1.5 billion iPhones. Your position is that Apple produces no value for society?
- CuriouslyC 3y ago
  If apple stopped existing shortly after android phones became available, everyone would just be using android phones now and the tears would be long in the past.
imiric 3y ago
You're ignoring the amount of their products used by professionals. Apple is the dominant brand in media production and IT alone, and its role in powering these fields is unquantifiable. I don't use Apple products, and the fact corporations abuse legal loop holes to evade taxes sickens me, but it's a huge leap to claim a company like Apple hasn't made substantial contributions to society.

tester756 3y ago

What? What values apple brought to society that other phone makers wouldnt? Especially in Europe where e.g iPhones arent that popular

lotsofpulp 3y ago
All of my non English speaking grandparents and great grandparents who are not familiar with computers were able to use FaceTime to video call with all the kids. And we tried with Nexus devices and non Apple solutions first, but the iPad mini and iPad Air is what worked to give them troubleshoot free, consistent ability to video call people.

specialist 3y ago

And society added a ton of value to Apple.

siquick 3y ago

What’s the definition of value here? You’d have a hard time arguing that touch screen phones have been a net positive on societies well being.