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It's no different then any other online game like clash of clans or pokemon go or even FIFA. You spend money to be allowed to spin the wheel more, the more you

It's no different then any other online game like clash of clans or pokemon go or even FIFA. You spend money to be allowed to spin the wheel more, the more you spin the better your chance at winning some in game shiny trophy to show off to others competing for the same shiny trophy. The addiction comes purely from the fact that thousands or millions of other people can see your progress and are competing against you to earn better.

liendolucas 3y ago
I see, but they shouldn't be allowed to use the word "casino" then. As far as I know, a casino (virtual or real) is a place where you gamble and have a chance (small but real) to get your money back. So basically people playing through this app are believing that effectively can win money when is not true.
- boomboomsubban 3y ago
  The first definition of "casino" is a place for social amusement, https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/casino https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/casino, and there are non gambling casinos still out there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalina_Casino https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalina_Casino I don't think many people playing these games are fooled into somehow thinking they'll win their money back. Certainly the 21 big spenders in the article knew they wouldn't.
  - liendolucas 3y ago
    But then why would you choose to go to this fake casino? If you also have the choice to gamble for real and at least a tiny chance to get something back or if you have high hopes "win", there seems to be absolutely no reason to put money in this game or fake bet app. Am I missing something?
    - woobar 3y ago
      What is the reason for playing any computer game? To get a dopamine fix by reaching some virtual goal. People pay small (at least at first) amounts of money for access to the game or in case of free-to-play games for a better chance of getting to the next goal. If someone gets a bit of excitement every time they win a virtual jackpot, they might think a $1 is an acceptable price to pay for it. And then it just spirals out of control.
    - tarheels100 3y ago
      I think the answer is in the question. They're not playing to win money. They're playing because whatever rewards that have been engineered into the game suck them in. Social aspects, FOMO, "winning" at a game, etc. Different people crave different rewards. Some people may care more about the financial reward, but they're out playing some other gambling game that caters to them.
- dymk 3y ago
  I really don't think the core issue is being allowed to use the word casino or not. Whales pour their life savings into other things not labeled casino - the core gambling addiction remains the same.
- yebyen 3y ago
  My parents use these games and I started as a way to commiserate with them, because I have always played games but they only started using computers after I was already well and truly addicted to computers writ-large. The Double U Casino used to have a team check-in, where you could send your team bonuses and they saw that you checked in with them. I know it sounds stupid, but this was a real way that I was connecting with my parents, and then they shut it down. Incidentally the name of our team was Roman Catholicism, because most of the teams were full and this was one that was not full. Whoever started Roman Catholicism left the group, and eventually we became the admins of Roman Catholicism. It was a sad day for me as a part of my family when Roman Catholicism closed its doors. I should call my folks! I think they still use the casino app, even without any money or social investment, they still enjoy it and I made sure they had nice tablets to use the app on. This is still working, even without the social aspect. It's still valuable to us, we game as a family, even if we're not always together. Anyway, would you ban Roman Catholicism because they're believing in what is not really true? I think someone baited me into this position, I wouldn't even make this ridiculous argument except that all of this literally happened and I am not making any of it up. Casino app keeps family together, son calls his parents more often after they get disconnected by the oppressive dev team that shut it down. I'll be here all week, try the Clams Casino at the bar.

liendolucas 3y ago

I see, but they shouldn't be allowed to use the word "casino" then. As far as I know, a casino (virtual or real) is a place where you gamble and have a chance (small but real) to get your money back. So basically people playing through this app are believing that effectively can win money when is not true.

boomboomsubban 3y ago
The first definition of "casino" is a place for social amusement, https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/casino https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/casino, and there are non gambling casinos still out there https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalina_Casino https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catalina_Casino I don't think many people playing these games are fooled into somehow thinking they'll win their money back. Certainly the 21 big spenders in the article knew they wouldn't.
- liendolucas 3y ago
  But then why would you choose to go to this fake casino? If you also have the choice to gamble for real and at least a tiny chance to get something back or if you have high hopes "win", there seems to be absolutely no reason to put money in this game or fake bet app. Am I missing something?
  - woobar 3y ago
    What is the reason for playing any computer game? To get a dopamine fix by reaching some virtual goal. People pay small (at least at first) amounts of money for access to the game or in case of free-to-play games for a better chance of getting to the next goal. If someone gets a bit of excitement every time they win a virtual jackpot, they might think a $1 is an acceptable price to pay for it. And then it just spirals out of control.
  - tarheels100 3y ago
    I think the answer is in the question. They're not playing to win money. They're playing because whatever rewards that have been engineered into the game suck them in. Social aspects, FOMO, "winning" at a game, etc. Different people crave different rewards. Some people may care more about the financial reward, but they're out playing some other gambling game that caters to them.
dymk 3y ago
I really don't think the core issue is being allowed to use the word casino or not. Whales pour their life savings into other things not labeled casino - the core gambling addiction remains the same.
yebyen 3y ago
My parents use these games and I started as a way to commiserate with them, because I have always played games but they only started using computers after I was already well and truly addicted to computers writ-large. The Double U Casino used to have a team check-in, where you could send your team bonuses and they saw that you checked in with them. I know it sounds stupid, but this was a real way that I was connecting with my parents, and then they shut it down. Incidentally the name of our team was Roman Catholicism, because most of the teams were full and this was one that was not full. Whoever started Roman Catholicism left the group, and eventually we became the admins of Roman Catholicism. It was a sad day for me as a part of my family when Roman Catholicism closed its doors. I should call my folks! I think they still use the casino app, even without any money or social investment, they still enjoy it and I made sure they had nice tablets to use the app on. This is still working, even without the social aspect. It's still valuable to us, we game as a family, even if we're not always together. Anyway, would you ban Roman Catholicism because they're believing in what is not really true? I think someone baited me into this position, I wouldn't even make this ridiculous argument except that all of this literally happened and I am not making any of it up. Casino app keeps family together, son calls his parents more often after they get disconnected by the oppressive dev team that shut it down. I'll be here all week, try the Clams Casino at the bar.