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That’s not a tautology: understanding the root cause of a problem is necessary to implement a beneficial response. In this particular case, we need to interven

That’s not a tautology: understanding the root cause of a problem is necessary to implement a beneficial response. In this particular case, we need to intervene at the cultural, familial, etc levels rather than harassing police for responding to crime as it happens — or blaming them for treating groups disproportionately when those groups act disproportionately. “De-policing” stems from ignorance (or intentional denial) of that root cause, and thus amounts to blaming the police/courts/etc for doing their job — stopping crime.

soulofmischief 3y ago
I never made any comments about de-policing, that is a projection on your part. I have personally witnessed extreme police racism growing up in a small town. I have personally been illegally harassed by police and an entire corrupt court system, illegally charged with a crime I did not commit, and was refused a chance to appeal because my lawyer was worried the judge would be mad at her for not playing along. I was given the maximum possible jail sentence of 6 months on my first criminal offense for a crime I didn't commit. And this happens every day, disproportionately to particular demographics. You have no idea what you are talking about.
- zmgsabst 3y ago
  I didn’t say you did — I gave an example of how what I said is not a tautology by showing how that concept relates to policy decisions, eg de-policing versus other interventions. Accusing me of not knowing what I’m talking about, based on your personal trauma and your stereotypes about me, isn’t a good faith reply. Have a great day!
  - soulofmischief 3y ago
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    - dang 3y ago
      Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - soulofmischief 3y ago
        Noted, thanks for letting me know.
  - dang 3y ago
    If you keep posting flamewar comments and personal attacks, we will ban you. You've been doing it a lot lately, and we've already warned you more than once. These comments in particular were well over the line at which we ban an account: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170594 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170594 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170565 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170565 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170493 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170493 I'm not going to ban you for them a week after the fact, but please make sure not to do this again. (I realize the other user was also being provocative, but that doesn't make it ok to post abusively.) https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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soulofmischief 3y ago

I never made any comments about de-policing, that is a projection on your part. I have personally witnessed extreme police racism growing up in a small town. I have personally been illegally harassed by police and an entire corrupt court system, illegally charged with a crime I did not commit, and was refused a chance to appeal because my lawyer was worried the judge would be mad at her for not playing along. I was given the maximum possible jail sentence of 6 months on my first criminal offense for a crime I didn't commit. And this happens every day, disproportionately to particular demographics. You have no idea what you are talking about.

zmgsabst 3y ago
I didn’t say you did — I gave an example of how what I said is not a tautology by showing how that concept relates to policy decisions, eg de-policing versus other interventions. Accusing me of not knowing what I’m talking about, based on your personal trauma and your stereotypes about me, isn’t a good faith reply. Have a great day!
- soulofmischief 3y ago
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  - dang 3y ago
    Please don't respond to a bad comment by breaking the site guidelines yourself. That only makes things worse. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - soulofmischief 3y ago
      Noted, thanks for letting me know.
- dang 3y ago
  If you keep posting flamewar comments and personal attacks, we will ban you. You've been doing it a lot lately, and we've already warned you more than once. These comments in particular were well over the line at which we ban an account: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170941 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170594 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170594 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170565 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170565 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170493 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38170493 I'm not going to ban you for them a week after the fact, but please make sure not to do this again. (I realize the other user was also being provocative, but that doesn't make it ok to post abusively.) https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
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