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Regardless of whether it's legally enforceable or not, any legal challenges will take longer to litigate than the intended anti-scalping effect over the coming

Regardless of whether it's legally enforceable or not, any legal challenges will take longer to litigate than the intended anti-scalping effect over the coming year. Until it goes through the courts, they will likely refuse the transfer of Cybertruck ownership between Tesla accounts...which is surmountable but annoying enough to discourage certain buyers.

mike_d 3y ago
Refusal to transfer ownership between accounts would amount to tortious interference, at which point Tesla would be liable for at a minimum whatever the buyer was willing to pay for the vehicle plus legal fees. This is of course a hypothetical because I doubt there will be any secondary market demand for Cybertrucks in the first year.
- voisin 3y ago
  > because I doubt there will be any secondary market demand for Cybertrucks in the first year. I find this surprising. Why do you think this?
  - userinanother 3y ago
    People who I know that ordered one did it only for scalping rights
  - mike_d 3y ago
    5 years ago a $100 preorder on a $40k electric truck was a sure bet. Everyone was hyped. People were willing to deal with its weird looks for an etruck. Tesla stumbled and the market is now gone. Rivian nailed the high end luxury market and commercial vehicles, F-150 Lightning filled the "real truck" niche, Hummer EV for the people who wanted something that stood out. Chevy and Dodge will have their electric trucks out next year before Tesla can ramp production. Now the $40k single motor base model isn't happening which killed off the buyers who wanted a cheap option. Not to mention the absolute dumpster fire that is Musk's personal brand, a lot of potential EV buyers won't touch him. They might still be able to sell some to die hard Tesla fans, but there isn't enough broad appeal to create a secondary market.
    - gmerc 3y ago
      I hear you and that’s all reasonable but at the same time, Donald Trump is running for president after being involved in a coup attempt and dozens of actions that should destroy his brand. But it strengthens it. The Musk cultists will buy.
    - brandonagr2 3y ago
      You seem to have missed a lot of news recently, Chevy has already announced they are delaying their truck at least another year because they have no hope of making them without losing money. Why do you think Stellantis will do any better than GM? https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/gm-delays-ev-truck-production-by-year-michigan-plant-2023-10-17/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/gm-del...
catlover76 3y ago
Suppose maybe plaintiffs can win on SJ?

mike_d 3y ago

Refusal to transfer ownership between accounts would amount to tortious interference, at which point Tesla would be liable for at a minimum whatever the buyer was willing to pay for the vehicle plus legal fees. This is of course a hypothetical because I doubt there will be any secondary market demand for Cybertrucks in the first year.

voisin 3y ago
> because I doubt there will be any secondary market demand for Cybertrucks in the first year. I find this surprising. Why do you think this?
- userinanother 3y ago
  People who I know that ordered one did it only for scalping rights
- mike_d 3y ago
  5 years ago a $100 preorder on a $40k electric truck was a sure bet. Everyone was hyped. People were willing to deal with its weird looks for an etruck. Tesla stumbled and the market is now gone. Rivian nailed the high end luxury market and commercial vehicles, F-150 Lightning filled the "real truck" niche, Hummer EV for the people who wanted something that stood out. Chevy and Dodge will have their electric trucks out next year before Tesla can ramp production. Now the $40k single motor base model isn't happening which killed off the buyers who wanted a cheap option. Not to mention the absolute dumpster fire that is Musk's personal brand, a lot of potential EV buyers won't touch him. They might still be able to sell some to die hard Tesla fans, but there isn't enough broad appeal to create a secondary market.
  - gmerc 3y ago
    I hear you and that’s all reasonable but at the same time, Donald Trump is running for president after being involved in a coup attempt and dozens of actions that should destroy his brand. But it strengthens it. The Musk cultists will buy.
  - brandonagr2 3y ago
    You seem to have missed a lot of news recently, Chevy has already announced they are delaying their truck at least another year because they have no hope of making them without losing money. Why do you think Stellantis will do any better than GM? https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/gm-delays-ev-truck-production-by-year-michigan-plant-2023-10-17/ https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/gm-del...

catlover76 3y ago

Suppose maybe plaintiffs can win on SJ?