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Not kidding, the future should be Fedora Silverblue layered on top of Fedora CoreOS. Immutable Linux is the future, and extending existing images is how they s

Not kidding, the future should be Fedora Silverblue layered on top of Fedora CoreOS. Immutable Linux is the future, and extending existing images is how they should be layering for each Fedora... flavor :)

Andrex 3y ago
It's definitely the future and I look forward to that future arriving. Still some ways to go I think. But the progress is exciting! And I'm also excited about Flatpak's proliferation and it getting real corporate backing and the full app store treatment with forthcoming Flathub updates[1]. 1. https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-desktop-leaders-unite-behind-flathub-app-store-heres-why/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-desktop-leaders-unite-be...
- throwaway914 3y ago
  I really don't understand how snaps can compete with flatpak. Flatseal makes this such a great experience. Ubuntu consistently backs the wrong horse.
ElectricalUnion 3y ago
Isn't CoreOS and Silverblue basically the same thing? They're both rpm-ostree things, the difference is that Silverblue/Kinoite/Sericea happens to have a base layer that boots to graphical.target instead of multi-user.target? I myself am looking to test openSUSE Aeon later, yet another rpm-ostree thing.
- sph 3y ago
  Conceptually, they are immutable Linux distros, but they're far from being the same. CoreOS is optimised for server use, and made to run containers and containers only, with unattended system upgrades/reboots. Silverblue is a workstation-type distro, centered around Flatpak and pet-type containers for real work (toolbox, distrobox) The difference is larger than running Fedora Server on your desktop.
  - hollerith 3y ago
    So, it sounds like "Fedora Silverblue layered on top of Fedora CoreOS" is incoherent.
    - sph 3y ago
      I mean, all distros are basically a set of packages on top of the Linux kernel. Technically there is no difference, in practice there is.

Andrex 3y ago

It's definitely the future and I look forward to that future arriving. Still some ways to go I think. But the progress is exciting! And I'm also excited about Flatpak's proliferation and it getting real corporate backing and the full app store treatment with forthcoming Flathub updates[1]. 1. https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-desktop-leaders-unite-behind-flathub-app-store-heres-why/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/linux-desktop-leaders-unite-be...

throwaway914 3y ago
I really don't understand how snaps can compete with flatpak. Flatseal makes this such a great experience. Ubuntu consistently backs the wrong horse.

ElectricalUnion 3y ago

Isn't CoreOS and Silverblue basically the same thing? They're both rpm-ostree things, the difference is that Silverblue/Kinoite/Sericea happens to have a base layer that boots to graphical.target instead of multi-user.target? I myself am looking to test openSUSE Aeon later, yet another rpm-ostree thing.

sph 3y ago
Conceptually, they are immutable Linux distros, but they're far from being the same. CoreOS is optimised for server use, and made to run containers and containers only, with unattended system upgrades/reboots. Silverblue is a workstation-type distro, centered around Flatpak and pet-type containers for real work (toolbox, distrobox) The difference is larger than running Fedora Server on your desktop.
- hollerith 3y ago
  So, it sounds like "Fedora Silverblue layered on top of Fedora CoreOS" is incoherent.
  - sph 3y ago
    I mean, all distros are basically a set of packages on top of the Linux kernel. Technically there is no difference, in practice there is.