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Wonder if there's ever been hearings on evidence admission in product liability cases where the data source is a ransomware group. As aside, it's hard to belie

• lazide 3y ago
  Shouldn’t be an issue. Plenty of court precedent that evidence gathered through crimes is admissible as long as it wasn’t the cops/gov’t committing the crimes.
  • jstarfish 3y ago
    Fruit of the poisoned tree normally applies. When does it not? (The only exception I know of is allowing illegally-obtained evidence in defense against defamation claims...IANAL.)
    • neodymiumphish 3y ago
      FOTPT only applies in instances where the cops obtained the content illegally. If some vigilante or bad actor obtains evidence of a crime without coordination or involvement from the government, then the government obtains this illegally-obtained information through legal means, it's still fair game for prosecution. For example, if I break into your home and steal your safe, which contains evidence of fraud you're committing, then the cops catch me and seize the evidence of my crime, thus observing evidence of your crimes, the evidence they took from my case can be used against you. In fact, if I'm talking to my cop friend and he tells me about the case against you and that they think there's evidence of your criminal activity in your safe, but they haven't obtained probable cause, I could break in, take the safe, and provide it to my friend and it still be admissible in court. Your defense would have to make a convincing argument that my cop friend asked or coordinated with me to commit the crime of breaking into your house/safe.
      • lazide 3y ago
        Yup, though if the cop had any sense he’d slap that friend silly before he bought himself all the legal bills from that stunt.
        • userinanother 3y ago
          Can’t sue someone with no money just saying
          • lazide 3y ago
            They can end up in jail for burglary if they can’t afford decent lawyers though.