So you disagree strongly. Fine. I happen to totally agree, but that's not an argument I'm going to get in to to since it never gets anywhere. I am confused by

So you disagree strongly. Fine. I happen to totally agree, but that's not an argument I'm going to get in to to since it never gets anywhere. I am confused by why you think this is "anti-PHP snobbery". What about HN's attitude to cold fusion or to VB? How can you tell which criticism is valid criticism from experienced developers about which tools are good and which are bad and which is "snobbery"? It's not like experienced developers who dislike PHP for being poorly designed and having a poorly managed community is a rarity. It's very common among respected developers. I suppose that to be a respected developer you must conform to the anti-PHP bias? Does the conspiracy go all the way to the top? Or maybe a lot of these criticisms are valid, but you disagree for your own specific reasons?