My problem with UX discussions as such is that there is no user context. Removing "clear obvious text menu" might make it less friendly for casual users or fir

My problem with UX discussions as such is that there is no user context. Removing "clear obvious text menu" might make it less friendly for casual users or first time users but makes space for stuff that experienced users have use of. Sufficiently experienced user needs to have menu organized the same way between versions if they use it for years they already and know what they want, probably just use keyboard shortcuts anyway. Discoverable menu items in complex menu IMO is not some holy grail. I think people read too much in "Apple design" and expect everything "should be easy". If you are first time user of CAD or advanced graphics manipulation application you are going to have to put time to find out tools and where they are. For example I like foldable left-hand menu on web apps where if I know the icons meaning I can fold it but for first time use of application I get text+icon.