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I said iPhone/iPad not Safari. The difference is imperative, since Safari on iOS does NOT support AV1. I have a fully patched iPad, I'm absolutely 100% certain.

by jchw 3y ago

I said iPhone/iPad not Safari. The difference is imperative, since Safari on iOS does NOT support AV1. I have a fully patched iPad, I'm absolutely 100% certain. Anyway, if it's good enough for Mozilla and Wikipedia and thousands of smaller companies, it's good enough for me. You do you.

scarface_74 3y ago
You may have a “fully patched iPad”. I assume you don’t have an iPhone 15 Pro or Pro Max with hardware decoding of AV1… https://bitmovin.com/apple-av1-support/ https://bitmovin.com/apple-av1-support/ > The WebKit blog provided more information about Safari 17.0, confirming support for the AV1 video codec was added on devices with hardware decoding support And if you don’t believe the blog, maybe you believe the caniuse site. https://caniuse.com/av1 https://caniuse.com/av1
- jchw 3y ago
  That is genuinely great news but: - Only iPhone 15 Pro? not even an iPhone 15? This means almost nothing. You can't just be like, "Oh my site only works on every device except iPhones except iPhone 15 Pro. - Still no Opus... I will fully admit that I am out of date on this, by like a couple months. But the reason why I say it like this is because people have been making this claim for years even though it has apparently been true for like two months. Apple is half-assing this every step of the way. It will be like, 2025 before a site can just use AV1 without needing multiple encodings, and at that point you probably still won't be able to use Opus. Thanks, Apple?
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    Because only the iPhone 15 Pto series chip has hardware decoding support for AV1. You’ve had to have code for fallback support for other codecs for years. And let’s not pretend it’s been available for Android forever. Chrome for Android just received support for AV1 last month as did Firefox for Android. And Opus support has been around since iOS 11 https://caniuse.com/opus https://caniuse.com/opus

by jchw 3y ago

scarface_74 3y ago

You may have a “fully patched iPad”. I assume you don’t have an iPhone 15 Pro or Pro Max with hardware decoding of AV1… https://bitmovin.com/apple-av1-support/ https://bitmovin.com/apple-av1-support/ > The WebKit blog provided more information about Safari 17.0, confirming support for the AV1 video codec was added on devices with hardware decoding support And if you don’t believe the blog, maybe you believe the caniuse site. https://caniuse.com/av1 https://caniuse.com/av1

jchw 3y ago
That is genuinely great news but: - Only iPhone 15 Pro? not even an iPhone 15? This means almost nothing. You can't just be like, "Oh my site only works on every device except iPhones except iPhone 15 Pro. - Still no Opus... I will fully admit that I am out of date on this, by like a couple months. But the reason why I say it like this is because people have been making this claim for years even though it has apparently been true for like two months. Apple is half-assing this every step of the way. It will be like, 2025 before a site can just use AV1 without needing multiple encodings, and at that point you probably still won't be able to use Opus. Thanks, Apple?
- scarface_74 3y ago
  Because only the iPhone 15 Pto series chip has hardware decoding support for AV1. You’ve had to have code for fallback support for other codecs for years. And let’s not pretend it’s been available for Android forever. Chrome for Android just received support for AV1 last month as did Firefox for Android. And Opus support has been around since iOS 11 https://caniuse.com/opus https://caniuse.com/opus