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Ukrainian military officer coordinated Nord Stream pipeline attack
- CommanderData 3y agoWasn't mainstream media's consensus it was sabotage by Russia themselves? No other narrative was allowed at the time in the UK.
- nabla9 3y agoNo it wasn't. Russia was always possibility and some governments pointed fingers towards Russia. Media reported these suspicions accurately. Suspicions against Poland and Ukraine were also reported. Sy Hersh claiming that the United States coordinated the attacks was just crazy shit.
- zerhseach 3y ago[flagged]
- jsocuwl 3y agoWhich medias? Here in canada the narrative I saw was "we suspect maybe, this one, maybe that one, but we don't know". I've followed the story for a while and there was no consensus, and more importantly no real evidence of anything.
- kbelder 3y agoIt was the same in the US. There wasn't any mainstream consensus, and the people claiming they were sure it was X or Y were all fringe.
- mc32 3y agoIndeed! Despite the logic that would make this a ridiculous action by the Russians to cut their nose to spite their face, people offered all kinds of contrived reasons the Russians would shoot themselves in the foot. If they wanted to hurt Europe al the had to do was turn the valve. The stupidest option would be to blow it up. It's like Covid where pretty much everyone who was for lockdowns and sicking police those who flouted orders now say they were never for lockdowns...
- lamontcg 3y agoPossibly related, yesterday the Ukrainian energy minister threatened attacking Russia's oil and gas pipelines in retaliation for any attacks on Ukraine's energy grid: https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/10/ukraine-energy-russia-00126592 https://www.politico.com/news/2023/11/10/ukraine-energy-russ...
- jprd 3y agoCould be related? https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-replaced-special-forces-commander-on-umerovs-recommendations/ https://kyivindependent.com/zelensky-replaced-special-forces...
- jprd 3y agohttps://archive.li/QKaTp https://archive.li/QKaTp
- genman 3y agoA lot of talk without any evidence trying to persuade that this fantasy has any merit. Considering that only Russian propaganda media has picket it up so far is also telling.