7 ms·
Related ancient Persian technology: the yakhchal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakhch%C4%81l https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakhch%C4%81l) (a.k.a the ice pit).
by eganist 3y ago
Related ancient Persian technology: the yakhchal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakhch%C4%81l https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yakhch%C4%81l) (a.k.a the ice pit).
We still use the same word in farsi for refrigerators today.
- pvg 3y agoWe still use half of the same word in English! 'yakh' and 'ice' are cognates. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%DB%8C%D8%AE https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%DB%8C%D8%AE
- hunter2_ 3y agoI love learning cognates that don't really look it. Acadian and Cajun is another favorite, although I'm not sure if it counts if they're both used in English.
- AdmiralAsshat 3y agoTry saying "Acadian" quickly, and you can see pretty easily how it might elide into "Cajun". Uh-cay-dee-yan Cay-dee-yan Cage-dee-yan Cay-jee-yan Cay-jun Speech gets lazier with repetition. Ask any native of New Orleans how their city's name is pronounced: the majority will say something like "Noo-ahh-lins" or even just "Nah'lins".
- dunefox 3y agoThat's a stretch.
- hunter2_ 3y agoIt's true though. The same transformation of the ending syllables happened with Indian becoming Injun (although that one eventually became offensive, unlike Cajun).
- dunefox 3y agoI think I read the word with the stress on the second syllable. On the first one it makes a lot more sense now.
- deleted 3y ago[deleted]
- djbusby 3y agoNew Orleans. Outside it's four syllable. Inside it's one
- aixhole 3y agoWe use the other half too. 'Chal' and 'hole' are cognates as well. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%DA%86%D8%A7%D9%84#Persian https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%DA%86%D8%A7%D9%84#Persian YakhChAL: Ice-hollow.
- pazimzadeh 3y agoThere are many cognates between Farsi and English. Here’s my list of really obvious ones: Mani/Meaning Dobare/Again (Double) Vacal/Vocal Lab/Lip No/New Baradar/Brother Beitar/Better Dokhtar/Daughter Mord/Dead (i.e mortal) Pose/Pose Setareh/Star Recid/Received Dar/Door Darije/Degree Band (Bebande, mibandam)/To bind
- dunefox 3y agoBoth languages being in the Indo-European language family, that's not very surprising.
- pazimzadeh 3y agoSure. And we all live on the same planet, and everything is related to everything else, so nothing is surprising.
- dunefox 3y agoWeird take.
- pvg 3y agoThey might be but that link doesn't seem to say that.
- jahnu 3y agoI visited several of these things in Yazd. Super fascinating technology (and the city in general too).
- jagaerglad 3y agoJust a minor off topic pet peeve of mine, but why not keep calling the language that Persians speak "Persian" in English? Just how it doesn't feel entirely right to suddenly start calling Spanish "Español" instead in English, or Swedish as "Svenska" and so on. I've met so many people not realizing the endonym "farsi" is just a (for some reason) new word in English used for the already well established name for the Persian language
- tomwheeler 3y agoNot all countries where Spanish is spoken call it Español. In many countries, notably including Spain itself, it is called Castellano (Castillian). There are several other (mostly related) languages also spoken in Spain, such as Galician or Catalan. "Spanish language" can be a bit imprecise because it could mean different things in different contexts.
- animal_spirits 3y agoI have only ever heard of the language referred to as Farsi in English. We call the language that Mexicans speak, Spanish, not Mexican.
- xcdzvyn 3y agoFunnily enough it's called Spanish because it's from Spain.
- dragonwriter 3y ago> We call the language that Mexicans speak, Spanish, not Mexican In the same way that we use “French” for the language spoken by the Quebecois as well as that spoken by the French, we use “Spanish” for the one spoken by Mexicans as well as that spoken by the Spanish, sure. (Same as we use “English” for the language spoken by Americans as well as the one spoken by people in England.) But that's not what’s going on with Farsi.
- FabHK 3y agoYes, because they speak Spanish. But you call it Spanish, not "Español". That's the point. There are perfectly fine English words for what the Spanish call "Español" ("Spanish"), and what the Germans call "Deutsch" ("German"), and what the Indonesians call "Bahasa Indonesia" ("Indonesian"), and what the French call "Français" ("French"), and what the Chinese call "普通话" ("Mandarin"), and what the Persians call "Farsi" ("Persian").
- parentheses 3y agoI also stumbled upon this from here: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6ppen_climate_classification https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/K%C3%B6ppen_climate_classifi... It is used to describe climates in the above article.
- userbinator 3y agoRelatedly, the word "icebox" also used to be commonly used to refer to refrigerators in the early 20th century, because before the advent of domestic refrigerating machines, ice in a (insulated) box was used.