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It's not just laws. People like me that have had bad trips and never want to touch another psychedelic because of it (or just people that are afraid of it for o

It's not just laws. People like me that have had bad trips and never want to touch another psychedelic because of it (or just people that are afraid of it for other reasons) could benefit from drugs that have that same "reset" effect without the trip.

pstuart 3y ago
Absolutely. I should have been clear in my rant -- the work outlined in the article is incredible and should be celebrated. My point is simply that we should have the choices ourselves, and the reason we don't is bullshit. p.s., condolences on the bad trip. I did a lot of psychedelics recreationally in my youth and have had a couple "misadventures" and so I do not do so today. It's powerful stuff and I do plan on trying again but in a therapeutic/spiritual way and will not do so lightly.
PheonixPharts 3y ago
Most experience psychonauts consider "bad" trips equally as valuable as "good" trips if your focus is self development. Confronting the things that terrify you the most, that are the roots of deep insecurity that take over during a psychedelic experience are the things we need to confront to move on. I've had my share of "bad" trips, but as I've matured I've realized those trips all contained very valuable information about anxieties I was not ready to consciously address. It's hard to imagine a "reset" effect especially in the cases where a bad trip happens. I think the bigger issue is that when people first try psychedelics they are left alone to deal with a "bad" trip without any guidance of how to process that experience. In which case it truly is a bad trip.
- pstuart 3y ago
  This is true, but I think it's important to not dismiss that maybe it just wasn't good for that person and they aren't going to get something positive out of it and it's not "their fault". And there are rare cases where people are permanently damaged by it. I have guilt from introducing a friend to it back in the day and he apparently did too much (either dosing or frequency) and was never the same again (in a bad way).
- naasking 3y ago
  > Confronting the things that terrify you the most, that are the roots of deep insecurity that take over during a psychedelic experience are the things we need to confront to move on. This is exactly what you do in therapy too. I think psychedelics freak people out more because they feel less in control, not realizing they can control the variables that lead to an overwhelming/bad trip.

pstuart 3y ago

Absolutely. I should have been clear in my rant -- the work outlined in the article is incredible and should be celebrated. My point is simply that we should have the choices ourselves, and the reason we don't is bullshit. p.s., condolences on the bad trip. I did a lot of psychedelics recreationally in my youth and have had a couple "misadventures" and so I do not do so today. It's powerful stuff and I do plan on trying again but in a therapeutic/spiritual way and will not do so lightly.

PheonixPharts 3y ago

Most experience psychonauts consider "bad" trips equally as valuable as "good" trips if your focus is self development. Confronting the things that terrify you the most, that are the roots of deep insecurity that take over during a psychedelic experience are the things we need to confront to move on. I've had my share of "bad" trips, but as I've matured I've realized those trips all contained very valuable information about anxieties I was not ready to consciously address. It's hard to imagine a "reset" effect especially in the cases where a bad trip happens. I think the bigger issue is that when people first try psychedelics they are left alone to deal with a "bad" trip without any guidance of how to process that experience. In which case it truly is a bad trip.

pstuart 3y ago
This is true, but I think it's important to not dismiss that maybe it just wasn't good for that person and they aren't going to get something positive out of it and it's not "their fault". And there are rare cases where people are permanently damaged by it. I have guilt from introducing a friend to it back in the day and he apparently did too much (either dosing or frequency) and was never the same again (in a bad way).
naasking 3y ago
> Confronting the things that terrify you the most, that are the roots of deep insecurity that take over during a psychedelic experience are the things we need to confront to move on. This is exactly what you do in therapy too. I think psychedelics freak people out more because they feel less in control, not realizing they can control the variables that lead to an overwhelming/bad trip.