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It feels like the computing industry is made up of an alliance of those who never had any IE6 experience, combined with those who spent the 90s and 00s deeply i

by ta1243 3y ago

It feels like the computing industry is made up of an alliance of those who never had any IE6 experience, combined with those who spent the 90s and 00s deeply into the Microsoft ecosystem

ksec 3y ago
I think this summarise everything that is wrong with discussions on the web/ twitter or HN. Without knowing their age and experience, a lot of these context are completely missing.
buffet_overflow 3y ago
I try not to think too much about how I mostly can not and likely will not see 1080p and higher content from my Linux desktop due to (a lack of) Chrome and DRM
- longitudinal93 3y ago
  Won't it display properly in VLC?
  - notpushkin 3y ago
    And the offline watching works way better!
  - jowea 3y ago
    How would VLC connect to Netflix? Unless you're implying piracy.
    - ta1243 3y ago
      netflix was never mentioned
- notpushkin 3y ago
  If you're willing to run a blob for DRM support, you can get it running in any Chromium flavour. (I would rather prefer torrents, though.) Related: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux – https://www.da.vidbuchanan.co.uk/blog/netflix-on-asahi.html https://www.da.vidbuchanan.co.uk/blog/netflix-on-asahi.html
- Mindwipe 3y ago
  Chrome for Linux is still 720p at best and I'd expect that to drop over time, not go up. Chrome isn't what's holding higher resolution Netflix back on Linux, it's the lack of a signed graphics driver by an authority that would revoke anything that didn't enforce the DRM and pushes the decryption to trusted hardware.
mikro2nd 3y ago
Assuming that the widely touted "statistic"[1] that the global developer cohort doubles every 5 years or so, this would inevitable make it true that more than 75% of all devs have no idea how predatory MS is. [1] I'm not sure where it comes from and have never seen any survey/study to back it, but most of the industry seems to think it true.
chiefalchemist 3y ago
Regardless of past experiences, we all (i.e., the computer industry) know who and what Google is now / today / recently. There is zero doubt of that profile. And yet how many can't even switch browsers? Or make recommendations that avoid the wrath of Google-zilla? They complain with words but are 100% complacent and complicit in their actions. We can't blame Google for that level of laziness. True story: A few months ago I applied for a job. The hiring manager sent a link asking me to fill out a form, a Google form. They had it set up to require you be signed in to Google to see the form. I replied to the manager saying I don't have a Google account, nor do I want one. He sent to form questions via email. But I'm convinced he had no clue as to why anyone would want to avoid Google. When I said there are plenty of less offensive alternatives to Google and I sensed he didn't care.
- solardev 3y ago
  I think most people wouldn't care. They're there to make money and feed their families, not wage a software holy war. I'm sure you're not the only one he's met who doesn't like Google. He just doesn't care. It's nice that he bothered to send you the questions separately... some might've seen that as a yellow flag, like "I bet this candidate's gonna be a pain. Wonder what else they won't want us to use." All I'm saying is you do you, but don't expect others to follow. There are plenty of evil companies in the world, and it's not like there's a clear moral superiority between Google, Apple, and Microsoft. They're not offensive to most people. They're just more banally evil companies in an ocean of even eviler companies. Tis life under capitalism.
  - ta1243 3y ago
    > I think most people wouldn't care. They're there to make money and feed their families, not wage a software holy war. Fortunately 30 years ago people didn't have that view, and that's why we have things like the web and Linux. Alas nobody cares about freedom now.
  - chiefalchemist 3y ago
    And that's exactly the mindset set Google preys upon...short term vision, greed and convenience. Yes, agreed, most people don't know and don't care. However, we're not talking about most people. We're talking about people who due to their profession actually know better. Yet, they put themselves, their families, their friends, their customers, etc. in harm's way? Google is laughing...all the way to the bank. I would suggest reading "The Age of Surveillance Capitalism."

by ta1243 3y ago

It feels like the computing industry is made up of an alliance of those who never had any IE6 experience, combined with those who spent the 90s and 00s deeply into the Microsoft ecosystem

ksec 3y ago

I think this summarise everything that is wrong with discussions on the web/ twitter or HN. Without knowing their age and experience, a lot of these context are completely missing.

buffet_overflow 3y ago

I try not to think too much about how I mostly can not and likely will not see 1080p and higher content from my Linux desktop due to (a lack of) Chrome and DRM

longitudinal93 3y ago
Won't it display properly in VLC?
- notpushkin 3y ago
  And the offline watching works way better!
- jowea 3y ago
  How would VLC connect to Netflix? Unless you're implying piracy.
  - ta1243 3y ago
    netflix was never mentioned
notpushkin 3y ago
If you're willing to run a blob for DRM support, you can get it running in any Chromium flavour. (I would rather prefer torrents, though.) Related: The Quest for Netflix on Asahi Linux – https://www.da.vidbuchanan.co.uk/blog/netflix-on-asahi.html https://www.da.vidbuchanan.co.uk/blog/netflix-on-asahi.html
Mindwipe 3y ago
Chrome for Linux is still 720p at best and I'd expect that to drop over time, not go up. Chrome isn't what's holding higher resolution Netflix back on Linux, it's the lack of a signed graphics driver by an authority that would revoke anything that didn't enforce the DRM and pushes the decryption to trusted hardware.

mikro2nd 3y ago

Assuming that the widely touted "statistic"[1] that the global developer cohort doubles every 5 years or so, this would inevitable make it true that more than 75% of all devs have no idea how predatory MS is. [1] I'm not sure where it comes from and have never seen any survey/study to back it, but most of the industry seems to think it true.

chiefalchemist 3y ago

Regardless of past experiences, we all (i.e., the computer industry) know who and what Google is now / today / recently. There is zero doubt of that profile. And yet how many can't even switch browsers? Or make recommendations that avoid the wrath of Google-zilla? They complain with words but are 100% complacent and complicit in their actions. We can't blame Google for that level of laziness. True story: A few months ago I applied for a job. The hiring manager sent a link asking me to fill out a form, a Google form. They had it set up to require you be signed in to Google to see the form. I replied to the manager saying I don't have a Google account, nor do I want one. He sent to form questions via email. But I'm convinced he had no clue as to why anyone would want to avoid Google. When I said there are plenty of less offensive alternatives to Google and I sensed he didn't care.

solardev 3y ago
I think most people wouldn't care. They're there to make money and feed their families, not wage a software holy war. I'm sure you're not the only one he's met who doesn't like Google. He just doesn't care. It's nice that he bothered to send you the questions separately... some might've seen that as a yellow flag, like "I bet this candidate's gonna be a pain. Wonder what else they won't want us to use." All I'm saying is you do you, but don't expect others to follow. There are plenty of evil companies in the world, and it's not like there's a clear moral superiority between Google, Apple, and Microsoft. They're not offensive to most people. They're just more banally evil companies in an ocean of even eviler companies. Tis life under capitalism.
- ta1243 3y ago
  > I think most people wouldn't care. They're there to make money and feed their families, not wage a software holy war. Fortunately 30 years ago people didn't have that view, and that's why we have things like the web and Linux. Alas nobody cares about freedom now.
- chiefalchemist 3y ago
  And that's exactly the mindset set Google preys upon...short term vision, greed and convenience. Yes, agreed, most people don't know and don't care. However, we're not talking about most people. We're talking about people who due to their profession actually know better. Yet, they put themselves, their families, their friends, their customers, etc. in harm's way? Google is laughing...all the way to the bank. I would suggest reading "The Age of Surveillance Capitalism."