> No, you should be happy the CIA did nothing because even if they did you would not know about it. Doing research on the CIA has made me expect them to be up

> No, you should be happy the CIA did nothing because even if they did you would not know about it. Doing research on the CIA has made me expect them to be up to absolutely no good, and frankly this is something that makes me sad and not happy. > But if it so happens they did and you find out, you should feel angry but you should not pretend it is business unusual. I'm glad that you understand that this makes me upset, but you are mistaken in believing that I do not think that this isn't "business as usual", in fact I've come to expect far far worse acts from the CIA. > Of course espionage is not election interfernece neccesarily unless you consider things like leaking info to french or US media interference (legit info not disinformation). No espionage isn't necessarily election interference, but if there is something that the CIA is known for then it's election interference. Well it turns out that public opinion can be shaped not by telling lies, which is easily combated, but rather by not telling the whole truth. > It's not ok for people to touch your butt for example unless people are your chosen sexual partner. Really? > It's not ok to kill a person, unless your intent is to defend yourself from mortal peril. It's not ok to spy on your friend, unless you are concerned your friend might commit suicide. Are you saying that the CIA was afraid that Angela Merkel was about to kill someone, commit suicide and or was being sexually aroused by having people watching her? Would it be okay for someone to spy on their friends, to see if they are trying to make a deal with somebody they don't like, so that they can put a spanner in the wheels on that deal? I mean if you doesn't like somebody then it's probably for the best for your friend not to have anything to do with that person. Is it okay for you to put spyware on your girlfriends phone to make sure that she doesn't cheat on you? You could always argue that cheating is immoral, and you are only trying to make sure that she doesn't become a bad person (according to you). Would you agree with me installing cameras in your home, for your personal protection. I mean you can totally trust a random person on the internet with your personal life, especially since I might be in a different legal jurisdiction so that you can practice your faith in strangers without having to worry about getting protection from your local law enforcement. > In some cases it makes the act excusable and in others it makes the anger less inflamed. Yeah and in a lot of cases making excuses instead of apologies, after getting caught red handed makes the anger along with the contempt more inflamed.