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I can only imagine how the people who made it feel knowing they basically worked for absolutely nothing

by Almondsetat 3y ago

lupire 3y ago
They got paid.
- Almondsetat 3y ago
  Is that enough to not feel like you’ve wasted your valuable time?
  - FFP999 3y ago
    Depends on who you are and what you did with your time.
  - washadjeffmad 3y ago
    As a matter of business, yes. Few can rely on celebrity for income, and self-important people aren't generally popular to work with. Not every product ships or is a commercial success, and not every effort makes the final cut. While it's nice when we have external validation for our contributions, that doesn't diminish the quality, aplomb, or professionalism of the work that went into it. Plus, it still goes on your CV, and you get a story to tell.
- jzb 3y ago
  I’ve been paid to work on things that succeed and a few things that didn’t pan out/weren’t released. It’s demoralizing when you spend months on something that gets shitcanned - even when it’s the right call. Note that all the crew and actors involved not only lose the joy of seeing their work on the screen: it’s a gap in their portfolio, too. The FX folks, animators, lower tier actors, all miss out on having a credit and work to show in order to build their careers.
JCharante 3y ago
Lucky. That’s the benefit of being the worker class and not the owners. You get paid whether it releases or not.
- krapp 3y ago
  Not according to what I've seen from artists and animators on my Twitter feed. Being "working class" doesn't mean you only care about the paycheck. Seeing something they put years of effort and talent into simply tossed into the bin never to be seen hurts.
  - JCharante 3y ago
    I mean that's fair, not being able to see your finished work is a bummer. Like creating a video game only for the publisher to cancel it right before finishing it.
- Ographer 3y ago
  Warner Brother executives make $10-40 million per year. Anyone remotely close to the top is doing just fine. It's strange to frame the situation as if the lower class workers are lucky compared to those in the owner class.
- mjhay 3y ago
  They'll be missing out on residuals they otherwise would have gotten.
crazygringo 3y ago
It's just part of any creative job. And honestly there isn't much of a difference of working on something that gets shelved, vs. something that gets released and is a total flop -- something that doesn't even make back 20% of its costs, and gets 17% of Rotten Tomatoes. Anyone who works in any artistic field knows that probably 80% of your total effort never sees the light of day -- whether you're a band trying to record songs, a novelist throwing away chapters and subplots and whole half-finished books, or yes -- scriptwriters and animators and actors. (Just think about how the majority of filmed TV pilots are never shown, because the majority of them don't get picked up. If you're an actor/writer/crew hired for a TV pilot, you know going into it that there's a better than 50% chance nobody will ever see it.)

I can only imagine how the people who made it feel knowing they basically worked for absolutely nothing

lupire 3y ago

They got paid.

Almondsetat 3y ago
Is that enough to not feel like you’ve wasted your valuable time?
- FFP999 3y ago
  Depends on who you are and what you did with your time.
- washadjeffmad 3y ago
  As a matter of business, yes. Few can rely on celebrity for income, and self-important people aren't generally popular to work with. Not every product ships or is a commercial success, and not every effort makes the final cut. While it's nice when we have external validation for our contributions, that doesn't diminish the quality, aplomb, or professionalism of the work that went into it. Plus, it still goes on your CV, and you get a story to tell.
jzb 3y ago
I’ve been paid to work on things that succeed and a few things that didn’t pan out/weren’t released. It’s demoralizing when you spend months on something that gets shitcanned - even when it’s the right call. Note that all the crew and actors involved not only lose the joy of seeing their work on the screen: it’s a gap in their portfolio, too. The FX folks, animators, lower tier actors, all miss out on having a credit and work to show in order to build their careers.

JCharante 3y ago

Lucky. That’s the benefit of being the worker class and not the owners. You get paid whether it releases or not.

krapp 3y ago
Not according to what I've seen from artists and animators on my Twitter feed. Being "working class" doesn't mean you only care about the paycheck. Seeing something they put years of effort and talent into simply tossed into the bin never to be seen hurts.
- JCharante 3y ago
  I mean that's fair, not being able to see your finished work is a bummer. Like creating a video game only for the publisher to cancel it right before finishing it.
Ographer 3y ago
Warner Brother executives make $10-40 million per year. Anyone remotely close to the top is doing just fine. It's strange to frame the situation as if the lower class workers are lucky compared to those in the owner class.
mjhay 3y ago
They'll be missing out on residuals they otherwise would have gotten.

crazygringo 3y ago

It's just part of any creative job. And honestly there isn't much of a difference of working on something that gets shelved, vs. something that gets released and is a total flop -- something that doesn't even make back 20% of its costs, and gets 17% of Rotten Tomatoes. Anyone who works in any artistic field knows that probably 80% of your total effort never sees the light of day -- whether you're a band trying to record songs, a novelist throwing away chapters and subplots and whole half-finished books, or yes -- scriptwriters and animators and actors. (Just think about how the majority of filmed TV pilots are never shown, because the majority of them don't get picked up. If you're an actor/writer/crew hired for a TV pilot, you know going into it that there's a better than 50% chance nobody will ever see it.)