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>you never see that kind of salary in germany Here is the Glassdoor page for "software manager" in Germany: https://www.glassdoor.de/Gehälter/software-manager
by simbolit 3y ago
>you never see that kind of salary in germany
Here is the Glassdoor page for "software manager" in Germany:
https://www.glassdoor.de/Gehälter/software-manager-gehalt-SRCH_KO0,16.htm https://www.glassdoor.de/Gehälter/software-manager-gehalt-SR...
As you can easily see, the job pays up to 150k, with 100k on average.
Where is the truth?
- WhereIsTheTruth 3y agoFor a non-profit?
- nickpeterson 3y agoI know a few people who work for medical non-profits, they make well into the 6 figure range. It was somewhat eye opening to me. They are not doctors.
- WanderPanda 3y agoIf funded by private donors it seems legit but if this is funded by tax money it smells like a grift
- hef19898 3y agoSo what shoild be the max salary for public servants then? Keep in mind we do want qualified people there, not that everybody wants to work in the private sector.
- qayxc 3y agoRegulation for non-profits in Germany doesn't prevent employees from being paid competitive salaries for comparable positions. So if the average salary for a given position is about 100k€, nothing would be stopping a non-profit from paying a comparable sum.
- depr 3y agoPay peanuts, get monkeys
- Y_Y 3y agoWorth noting that monkeys will also accept inflated salaries, and sometimes insist.
- madeofpalk 3y agoDoes non-profit mean they should be paid less for doing the same work? If a non-profit hires a janitor, should they pay the janitor less?
- addicted 3y agoA lot of people seem to believe that, which is completely nonsensical. As someone who runs a tiny hyper-local non profit (we take in a few thousand $s a year), running a non profit requires as much, if not more, work than running a for profit business. One reason why we have such awful non profits is that they don’t pay enough to compete for the best talent.
- bibouthegreat 3y agoFun fact: Rolex is a non-profit.
- madeofpalk 3y agoWhat is the point you are implying?
- tchalla 3y agoNon-profit doesn’t mean “no profit”.
- yreg 3y agoIt does, but no profit doesn't mean low salary.
- Ringz 3y agoAs a managing director of a German non-profit gGmbH, I can tell you that you can and may make a lot of profit. It's just about how and in what period the profits must be used.
- sigzero 3y agoA non-profit organization is a group organized for purposes other than generating profit and in which no part of the organization's income is distributed to its members, directors, or officers. Nonprofits run like a business and try to earn a profit, which does not support any single member.
- komali2 3y agoCan I ask why there's an assumption that to do good in the world requires participating in some kind of poverty cult? Never understood where this comes from.
- jstarfish 3y agoJesus. Being the trust-fund offspring of a deity, he had it made from birth. But that's not how the story goes. It shows humility and puts you on the same level of vulnerability as others. It's what separates you from the gentry. You give everything of yourself to help others, to prove you're one of them, and inspire others to help in kind.
- mk67 3y agoThe truth is that quite some jobs pay >=100k in Germany. Usually needs to be one level above senior engineer, so staff eng. or some kind of manager.
- RamblingCTO 3y agoYou're blatantly misrepresenting the figure. The average span is 59.308 € - 103.663 €/year. So choosing 100k as the average skews the number in favour of your argument.
- endless1234 3y agoIt literally says the average is 95k, there is no choice involved.
- RamblingCTO 3y agoWell, what you're saying is actually true. But if you have a look at the "graph" you'll see that it's skewed because of fewer but higher salaries. I'm thinking of the median and wouldn't consider the average to have any indication whatsoever.
- ernst_klim 3y agoAs someone living and working in Germany I call this numbers unrealistic. People with 10-15 years of experience earn something around 60-70k gross here. FAANG and CTOs may earn more, but it's rare
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- sveme 3y agoSorry, but that depends on region and company size. I know plenty of people that work as senior engineers or leads that earn rather 90 - 110k, even at smaller companies.
- dreizehn 3y agoAs someone living and working as a senior software developer in Germany and on top of that currently involved in a client's hiring process, I say these numbers are completely realistic. Experienced developers are asking 90k at least, I've seen juniors with 2-3 years of experience state their current salary at 75k. For a senior software developer to earn 60k, you'd have to either be living in an extremely rural area or be blindly loyal to an employer. Talking about managers, I don't think anyone above team leader would accept a 100k offer right now.
- ernst_klim 3y ago> I've seen juniors with 2-3 years of experience state their current salary at 75k. Which land and business domain is that?
- dreizehn 3y agoHessen and I don't remember what business domain the applicants were working in but broadly it's embedded/firmware work