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So if something is open source it's immune to criticism? Let's assume KDE and Gnome are equally good in every single aspect. In this case, don't you think it's

So if something is open source it's immune to criticism? Let's assume KDE and Gnome are equally good in every single aspect. In this case, don't you think it's a little bit weird that German government chooses Gnome over KDE, whose origin in Germany? It's not charity, but taxpayers' money.

spinningslate 3y ago
That's not what the post says: >I find it [...] surprising that the top comment [...] is criticising the effort Nothing about it being immune to criticism, just surprised that the dominant post (as the time) was critical. The puzzle of successfully funding open source is ever present. A government has made a meaningful investment in an open source project. It might not be your favourite project, and it doubtless has challenges. But I'm with GP in seeing this as net good news.
- addicted 3y ago
  Criticizing Gnome and KDE is not the same as criticizing the German effort to fund open source SW projects. Yeah, the criticism of the effort absolutely seems misplaced. Even the criticism of the money going to Gnome seems misplaced unless someone has gone through the criteria and identified which criteria they find unhelpful, or goes through Gnome’s application and identifies where they’ve misidentified. Otherwise a criticism of the effort sounds simply like someone who has done no work at all, looks at an effort that has clearly put in a lot of process and safeguards (as evident simply from the application submitted), didn’t like the result but out of sheer laziness don’t even try to identify what went wrong and decided to piss all over the people who are actually putting in money, time, resources and effort to do something. Unfortunately this is quite common in the open source world. People who don’t actually do any of the work (which includes me, even if I’ve submitted a few PRs) that go around telling the people doing the actual work that they’re doing it wrong without putting in the effort to show how or why they’re doing it wrong.
mr_mitm 3y ago
It's just paradoxical that they would have received less criticism if they didn't donate anything at all.
seba_dos1 3y ago
> don't you think it's a little bit weird Not at all. GNOME filled up an application for Sovereign Tech Fund and received the grant for stated purposes. In order for KDE to receive it too, someone from the project would have to apply first and their request would have to be evaluated positively too.

spinningslate 3y ago

That's not what the post says: >I find it [...] surprising that the top comment [...] is criticising the effort Nothing about it being immune to criticism, just surprised that the dominant post (as the time) was critical. The puzzle of successfully funding open source is ever present. A government has made a meaningful investment in an open source project. It might not be your favourite project, and it doubtless has challenges. But I'm with GP in seeing this as net good news.

addicted 3y ago
Criticizing Gnome and KDE is not the same as criticizing the German effort to fund open source SW projects. Yeah, the criticism of the effort absolutely seems misplaced. Even the criticism of the money going to Gnome seems misplaced unless someone has gone through the criteria and identified which criteria they find unhelpful, or goes through Gnome’s application and identifies where they’ve misidentified. Otherwise a criticism of the effort sounds simply like someone who has done no work at all, looks at an effort that has clearly put in a lot of process and safeguards (as evident simply from the application submitted), didn’t like the result but out of sheer laziness don’t even try to identify what went wrong and decided to piss all over the people who are actually putting in money, time, resources and effort to do something. Unfortunately this is quite common in the open source world. People who don’t actually do any of the work (which includes me, even if I’ve submitted a few PRs) that go around telling the people doing the actual work that they’re doing it wrong without putting in the effort to show how or why they’re doing it wrong.

mr_mitm 3y ago

It's just paradoxical that they would have received less criticism if they didn't donate anything at all.

seba_dos1 3y ago

> don't you think it's a little bit weird Not at all. GNOME filled up an application for Sovereign Tech Fund and received the grant for stated purposes. In order for KDE to receive it too, someone from the project would have to apply first and their request would have to be evaluated positively too.