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Side comment - can I just observe how modern web has become an absolute hellscape of ads? The article was very interesting but literally in between every paragr

Side comment - can I just observe how modern web has become an absolute hellscape of ads? The article was very interesting but literally in between every paragraph there's a giant ad, at least for me every time it's for the same thing - some random garbage from Temu. When the site opened I had three full-screen ads that I had to dismiss to read the article, and two more popped up as I was scrolling down. It's just.......too much.

haunter 3y ago
I’m more surprised that you are browsing without an adblocker. 0 ads and popups on my side
- gambiting 3y ago
  Mobile chrome. Not sure if there is even an option for an adblocker here. I used to just have a PIA VPN always enabled with the built in ad killer, that worked well system wide but it kept tripping up my bank apps so I stopped using it.
  - AndrewKemendo 3y ago
    Yeah I’m on iOS Firefox - never going to happen to get an ad blocking browser
    - LorenzoGood 3y ago
      Brave IOS
    - Johnny555 3y ago
      I use 1Blocker on IOS -- it works pretty well, but not as well as uBlock origin.
  - haunter 3y ago
    On Android you can use Firefox which have extensions so you can use uBlock Origin On iOS you can use Adguard Pro which works with all browsers (I use this) https://apps.apple.com/us/app/adguard-pro-adblock-privacy/id1126386264 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/adguard-pro-adblock-privacy/id...
  - greggsy 3y ago
    NextDNS is an ok option - there’s semi decent ad lists, and I rarely go over the free 300k requests per month tier on mobile. You can also set it to ignore wifi networks if you’ve got PiHole or whatever at home. Not for everyone I guess, but I haven’t perused the privacy policy in great detail.
  - HankB99 3y ago
    I have an adblock browser installed. Google defies any attempt to make it the default but it shows up in the options on the Chrome browser. When a site is too obnoxious I reopen it in the adblock browser for some relief.
    - philistine 3y ago
      Sounds like your problem is Chrome. Firefox and Safari are not owned by ad companies. Consider using them instead.
  - jtriangle 3y ago
    Vivaldi mobile native adblock works pretty ok
  - isoprophlex 3y ago
    Nextdns gives you dns with custom blacklisting. It's very lightweight, no battery drain and you can allow certain domains if anything breaks. Not as powerful as UBO but you can use it on almost any device. Highly recommended
Kovah 3y ago
I was wondering why there was so much "empty space" in between, then I noticed Brave blocked 23 requests, probably all tracking and ads. smh
jihadjihad 3y ago
It's awful. I don't know what the threshold was for me, but after I saw enough comments like yours with replies to "just use Pi-hole," I finally gave it a shot. I'm happy to report that it is indeed possible to enjoy the web again, even noxious sites like this--you can finally walk down the street now that the sea of garbage is gone.
- AndrewKemendo 3y ago
  Even for technical people setting up a pihole seems like a goat rope. Did you find a tutorial or something that made it accessible?
  - appplication 3y ago
    It also only sort of works because as soon as you leave your WiFi it’s no use, unless I fundamentally misunderstand it. I’m sure it’s a great product, but it doesn’t seem to solve the ad problem.
beAbU 3y ago
I consume hn mostly on mobile. Websites like TFA are almost impossible to peruse. I made it about half way through, looking for a picture of the damn thing before I gave up and came here looking for a link to an alternative article.
dmd 3y ago
This is the internet experience of the vast, vast majority of people. Fewer than 1% of people use an adblocker. (Why don’t you?)
swayvil 3y ago
It's just the more businessy sites that are fucked like this. The first page of google and such. There's still a vast ecosystem of casual sites that are quite nice. You just gotta avoid the hell-gaze of Mammon.
allenrb 3y ago
Even on my iPhone (who’d test against that rare platform?) I got repeated strange delays and redraws. Granted, it’s an XR which is hardly the latest model, but… your page is unusable.
geocrasher 3y ago
Part of it has to do with their ad provider. Ezoic is TERRIBLE.

haunter 3y ago

I’m more surprised that you are browsing without an adblocker. 0 ads and popups on my side

gambiting 3y ago
Mobile chrome. Not sure if there is even an option for an adblocker here. I used to just have a PIA VPN always enabled with the built in ad killer, that worked well system wide but it kept tripping up my bank apps so I stopped using it.
- AndrewKemendo 3y ago
  Yeah I’m on iOS Firefox - never going to happen to get an ad blocking browser
  - LorenzoGood 3y ago
    Brave IOS
  - Johnny555 3y ago
    I use 1Blocker on IOS -- it works pretty well, but not as well as uBlock origin.
- haunter 3y ago
  On Android you can use Firefox which have extensions so you can use uBlock Origin On iOS you can use Adguard Pro which works with all browsers (I use this) https://apps.apple.com/us/app/adguard-pro-adblock-privacy/id1126386264 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/adguard-pro-adblock-privacy/id...
- greggsy 3y ago
  NextDNS is an ok option - there’s semi decent ad lists, and I rarely go over the free 300k requests per month tier on mobile. You can also set it to ignore wifi networks if you’ve got PiHole or whatever at home. Not for everyone I guess, but I haven’t perused the privacy policy in great detail.
- HankB99 3y ago
  I have an adblock browser installed. Google defies any attempt to make it the default but it shows up in the options on the Chrome browser. When a site is too obnoxious I reopen it in the adblock browser for some relief.
  - philistine 3y ago
    Sounds like your problem is Chrome. Firefox and Safari are not owned by ad companies. Consider using them instead.
- jtriangle 3y ago
  Vivaldi mobile native adblock works pretty ok
- isoprophlex 3y ago
  Nextdns gives you dns with custom blacklisting. It's very lightweight, no battery drain and you can allow certain domains if anything breaks. Not as powerful as UBO but you can use it on almost any device. Highly recommended

Kovah 3y ago

I was wondering why there was so much "empty space" in between, then I noticed Brave blocked 23 requests, probably all tracking and ads. smh

jihadjihad 3y ago

It's awful. I don't know what the threshold was for me, but after I saw enough comments like yours with replies to "just use Pi-hole," I finally gave it a shot. I'm happy to report that it is indeed possible to enjoy the web again, even noxious sites like this--you can finally walk down the street now that the sea of garbage is gone.

AndrewKemendo 3y ago
Even for technical people setting up a pihole seems like a goat rope. Did you find a tutorial or something that made it accessible?
- appplication 3y ago
  It also only sort of works because as soon as you leave your WiFi it’s no use, unless I fundamentally misunderstand it. I’m sure it’s a great product, but it doesn’t seem to solve the ad problem.

beAbU 3y ago

I consume hn mostly on mobile. Websites like TFA are almost impossible to peruse. I made it about half way through, looking for a picture of the damn thing before I gave up and came here looking for a link to an alternative article.

dmd 3y ago

This is the internet experience of the vast, vast majority of people. Fewer than 1% of people use an adblocker. (Why don’t you?)

swayvil 3y ago

It's just the more businessy sites that are fucked like this. The first page of google and such. There's still a vast ecosystem of casual sites that are quite nice. You just gotta avoid the hell-gaze of Mammon.

allenrb 3y ago

Even on my iPhone (who’d test against that rare platform?) I got repeated strange delays and redraws. Granted, it’s an XR which is hardly the latest model, but… your page is unusable.

geocrasher 3y ago

Part of it has to do with their ad provider. Ezoic is TERRIBLE.