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How is this not in violation of working law in the USA? Insane.

gmerc 3y ago
molesting flight attendants is also a violation of various laws. In america, almost everything is practically legal for a fine - thanks to settlements and fines are absolute not relative to income. And Elon had maxed his bank account, making him immune to the actual consequences of most laws and regulations. The only thing these people still fear in terms of being held accountable is the court of public opinion because it may force politicians to change the rules. Hence the obsession with cancel culture and the aggressive attempts at reframing oneself as the victim. In practical terms these people are as untouchable as medical feudal lords.
ryaneager 3y ago
There’s laws to protect workers…? I thought it was agreeded “Profits over People.”
ImAnAmateur 3y ago
From my experience in constructuion, I think it's because the people who are liable for these embarassments are not those who are funding it. Elon Musk('s company, that he gets final say on) is free to fire any third-party that doesn't follow his orders. The third-party that bends the knee and does something unsafe is putting their management at risk of legal danger in order to keep a well-paying client. In construction, so I hear, it's often "feast or famine". You can make a lot of money working these jobs compared to standard fare. They have lots of overtime available and may have a higher pay rate or bonuses. I feel confident in saying that Elon Musk (or his company) is handsomely rewarding all the people doing this work. I'm very serious about this being an embarassment. Taking the high road and not putting one's self in these dangerous work environments may not actually be that much trouble. The problem is that SpaceX is where the good money is at and some short-term risk may be seen as worth it. Having an average of 66 injuries per year on average for the last 9 years is also less informative than I'd like. How many were serious? How many had full recoveries? This number doesn't include near-misses which should also be tracked. Safety rules are said to be written in blood because more rules are made when someone dies. So ignoring those rules is asking for great risk. The people who are doing the work and putting themselves at risk also know this. That's why this poor behavior reflects badly on both parties.

molesting flight attendants is also a violation of various laws. In america, almost everything is practically legal for a fine - thanks to settlements and fines are absolute not relative to income. And Elon had maxed his bank account, making him immune to the actual consequences of most laws and regulations. The only thing these people still fear in terms of being held accountable is the court of public opinion because it may force politicians to change the rules. Hence the obsession with cancel culture and the aggressive attempts at reframing oneself as the victim. In practical terms these people are as untouchable as medical feudal lords.

ryaneager 3y ago

There’s laws to protect workers…? I thought it was agreeded “Profits over People.”

ImAnAmateur 3y ago

From my experience in constructuion, I think it's because the people who are liable for these embarassments are not those who are funding it. Elon Musk('s company, that he gets final say on) is free to fire any third-party that doesn't follow his orders. The third-party that bends the knee and does something unsafe is putting their management at risk of legal danger in order to keep a well-paying client. In construction, so I hear, it's often "feast or famine". You can make a lot of money working these jobs compared to standard fare. They have lots of overtime available and may have a higher pay rate or bonuses. I feel confident in saying that Elon Musk (or his company) is handsomely rewarding all the people doing this work. I'm very serious about this being an embarassment. Taking the high road and not putting one's self in these dangerous work environments may not actually be that much trouble. The problem is that SpaceX is where the good money is at and some short-term risk may be seen as worth it. Having an average of 66 injuries per year on average for the last 9 years is also less informative than I'd like. How many were serious? How many had full recoveries? This number doesn't include near-misses which should also be tracked. Safety rules are said to be written in blood because more rules are made when someone dies. So ignoring those rules is asking for great risk. The people who are doing the work and putting themselves at risk also know this. That's why this poor behavior reflects badly on both parties.