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It's a pity that the article never mentions why they thought imprisoning the girl was a lifesaving and necessary treatment.

amanaplanacanal 3y ago
It sounds like it was CPS: "After a child protection investigation, a judge ordered that Maya be removed from her family and sheltered at the hospital."
- ls612 3y ago
  The problem with CPS is that the kinds of people who want to work for them are the petty tyrants who can’t get any better job. So they have a large false positive rate because they want to feel powerful.
  - CoastalCoder 3y ago
    It's a reay high-stakes responsibility. Erring in either direction is terrible. Now ask people to sign up for that stress and heartache, but only offer a barely liveable salary.
    - ls612 3y ago
      So is jury duty on a criminal trial. Yet there is a broad consensus in western society as to which way the system should err in this case.
      - amanaplanacanal 3y ago
        If a child really is in danger and they miss it, it tends to make national news. I do understand why it is the way it is, even if parents get screwed occasionally.
    - 6510 3y ago
      I've pondered a few times, what would be the correct way to configure a salary? There are of course horrific jobs with shit pay and lazy ones paid way to much but I believe even supply and demand market mechanisms aren't doing what we want them to. Perhaps to ensure they are all real to put a $500 tax on each job offer and charge $20 for seeking a job, count them, sort by occupation, increase minimum salary where demand is much larger than supply, lower it where supply exceeds demand. Perhaps compensate randomly chosen people to review what a job is like and rate if they think it should be paid more or less. Something quite similar could be done for the length of the work day and the number of days per week/year. Max 11 hours of driving could be insufficient if there are many job offers. If there are few hours it can be adjusted to say 10 hours and 30 min along with a 5% raise.
  - naijaboiler 3y ago
    Read this case, this was not a false positive. This kid did need to be removed from the mom
dragonwriter 3y ago
Because they thought that her series of previous medical treatments were her parents committing medical abuse which put her life in danger (Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy); that this was not merely a reasonable conclusion at the time but the correct conclusion in retrospect appears to have been the hospital's argument at trial, even. (Sibling comment says it was CPS, which is procedurally true, but the CPS action was grounded in the hospital's judgement and report.)

amanaplanacanal 3y ago

It sounds like it was CPS: "After a child protection investigation, a judge ordered that Maya be removed from her family and sheltered at the hospital."

ls612 3y ago
The problem with CPS is that the kinds of people who want to work for them are the petty tyrants who can’t get any better job. So they have a large false positive rate because they want to feel powerful.
- CoastalCoder 3y ago
  It's a reay high-stakes responsibility. Erring in either direction is terrible. Now ask people to sign up for that stress and heartache, but only offer a barely liveable salary.
  - ls612 3y ago
    So is jury duty on a criminal trial. Yet there is a broad consensus in western society as to which way the system should err in this case.
    - amanaplanacanal 3y ago
      If a child really is in danger and they miss it, it tends to make national news. I do understand why it is the way it is, even if parents get screwed occasionally.
  - 6510 3y ago
    I've pondered a few times, what would be the correct way to configure a salary? There are of course horrific jobs with shit pay and lazy ones paid way to much but I believe even supply and demand market mechanisms aren't doing what we want them to. Perhaps to ensure they are all real to put a $500 tax on each job offer and charge $20 for seeking a job, count them, sort by occupation, increase minimum salary where demand is much larger than supply, lower it where supply exceeds demand. Perhaps compensate randomly chosen people to review what a job is like and rate if they think it should be paid more or less. Something quite similar could be done for the length of the work day and the number of days per week/year. Max 11 hours of driving could be insufficient if there are many job offers. If there are few hours it can be adjusted to say 10 hours and 30 min along with a 5% raise.
- naijaboiler 3y ago
  Read this case, this was not a false positive. This kid did need to be removed from the mom

dragonwriter 3y ago

Because they thought that her series of previous medical treatments were her parents committing medical abuse which put her life in danger (Munchausen Syndrome by Proxy); that this was not merely a reasonable conclusion at the time but the correct conclusion in retrospect appears to have been the hospital's argument at trial, even. (Sibling comment says it was CPS, which is procedurally true, but the CPS action was grounded in the hospital's judgement and report.)