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These are all barely layoffs.

by dangus 3y ago

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well_actulily 3y ago
But they increase FUD and get clicks, so they're fit to print!
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Espressosaurus 3y ago
They increase uncertainty at the companies and indirectly at other companies so people wonder if their jobs are safe. Got to love seeing the stick so clearly.
- dangus 3y ago
  No but really, this is like 20 product managers at Snap (> 5,000 employees), Zillow with 2 dozen (> 5,000 employees), and some undisclosed small number from the others. Employees can feel how they want to feel but most of my peers seem to have much a much greater fear layoffs than they should have. Many of those folks just haven't been laid off before. I've personally been laid off at least 3 times that I can recall. Once it's happened to you a few times that whole fear goes away, at least in my opinion. "Wondering if your job is safe" is really not productive. There's no such thing as "safe" in at-will employment.
bmitc 3y ago
This almost sounds like you're saying "they're barely people". I'm sure that's how the companies view them.
- pempem 3y ago
  I think the poster is saying this sounds like theater. Why are they doing this. Otherwise the paper would be littered with such notices every day.
  - bmitc 3y ago
    As someone who was recently laid off in the most non-empathetic way, I feel pretty strongly that these companies should have a lot of attention on them. If their strategy is to start doing more frequent so-called "micro"-layoffs to fly under the radar more, then it should get attention. In my experience, layoffs are the most lazy but antagonistic way to treat those being laid off and the employees that remain. They are almost 100% due to either shareholder/investors wanting a quick cost savings and/or poor executive management and decisions. They don't have anything to do with the employees themselves, although the employees are the ones taking all the risk and receiving the consequences of others' actions.
Racing0461 3y ago
Companies announcing layoffs causes their stock price to increase. Merely having this in the headline was worth it for the companies involved and the newspaper that got clicks.

These are all barely layoffs.

by dangus 3y ago

These are all barely layoffs.

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well_actulily 3y ago

But they increase FUD and get clicks, so they're fit to print!

deleted 3y ago
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Espressosaurus 3y ago

They increase uncertainty at the companies and indirectly at other companies so people wonder if their jobs are safe. Got to love seeing the stick so clearly.

dangus 3y ago
No but really, this is like 20 product managers at Snap (> 5,000 employees), Zillow with 2 dozen (> 5,000 employees), and some undisclosed small number from the others. Employees can feel how they want to feel but most of my peers seem to have much a much greater fear layoffs than they should have. Many of those folks just haven't been laid off before. I've personally been laid off at least 3 times that I can recall. Once it's happened to you a few times that whole fear goes away, at least in my opinion. "Wondering if your job is safe" is really not productive. There's no such thing as "safe" in at-will employment.

bmitc 3y ago

This almost sounds like you're saying "they're barely people". I'm sure that's how the companies view them.

pempem 3y ago
I think the poster is saying this sounds like theater. Why are they doing this. Otherwise the paper would be littered with such notices every day.
- bmitc 3y ago
  As someone who was recently laid off in the most non-empathetic way, I feel pretty strongly that these companies should have a lot of attention on them. If their strategy is to start doing more frequent so-called "micro"-layoffs to fly under the radar more, then it should get attention. In my experience, layoffs are the most lazy but antagonistic way to treat those being laid off and the employees that remain. They are almost 100% due to either shareholder/investors wanting a quick cost savings and/or poor executive management and decisions. They don't have anything to do with the employees themselves, although the employees are the ones taking all the risk and receiving the consequences of others' actions.

Racing0461 3y ago

Companies announcing layoffs causes their stock price to increase. Merely having this in the headline was worth it for the companies involved and the newspaper that got clicks.