> That's exactly the point; they market it as if it would make a plethora of new and innovative things happen but in reality they will allow none of it. How mu

> That's exactly the point; they market it as if it would make a plethora of new and innovative things happen but in reality they will allow none of it. How much innovation and applications have been stymied by artificial network-layer barriers: > First is actually a more subtle issue... the Skype peer-to-peer network architecture elected certain nodes to be "supernodes", to help maintain the index of peers as well as handle parts of the NAT/firewall traversal for other peers. * https://ip.topicbox.com/groups/ip/T9f6a724f4bcd6616-M0e99abae40a46d044d1f39da https://ip.topicbox.com/groups/ip/T9f6a724f4bcd6616-M0e99aba... * https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/skype-replaces-p2p-supernodes-with-linux-boxes-hosted-by-microsoft/ https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/skype... CPE gear has gotten better hole punching over time (PCP, UPnP), but one still has to futz around with STUN/ICE/TURN. We've invented entirely new protocols (QUIC) because of middleware boxes blocking things (SCTP, DCCP) and generally getting in the way.