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8GB is not enough for even "regular users" - it just limps along with swap to SSD, but video memory from those same 8GB cannot be swapped out. 8GB is what you p

8GB is not enough for even "regular users" - it just limps along with swap to SSD, but video memory from those same 8GB cannot be swapped out. 8GB is what you put in a phone nowadays. This is also not about cost - if it was, the upgrade would be what, 40 USD? The only reason for having an 8GB model at all is so they can make 16GB into a hefty upsell with a 100x markup - without it, the 16GB model would be the listed baseline and would have to be priced as such. Presenting an almost suitable model with a much too pricey but within reach upgrade is a pretty standard trick to make someone commit to a higher price. That's also why they carry older iPhones and iPads - not to sell those models, but to lure you with a low price, then convince you that you need more storage, then that storage is almost the price of the other model, which needs more storage... Up the ladder you go.

StillBored 3y ago
Today? My 5-year-old oneplus6 has 8G of RAM and it was like $600 five years ago. It also has a headphone jack BTW.
deafpolygon 3y ago
> a pretty standard trick to make someone commit to a higher price. The worst part is that, this is priced like automobiles. Now you're going to upgrade the RAM, and it reaches the price of its sibling products. You'll be tempted to consider that product. Prices listed in Euros: MacBook Air 13 inch M2 8core cpu, 8core gpu Entry level price: 1299.00 Cpu upgrade +120eu: 8core cpu, 10core gpu <- why does this exist? Solely to upsell you into the Pro level. Ram upgrade +230eu: from 8gb to 16gb <- essential Storage upgrade +230eu: from 256gb (pitiful) to 512gb (barely acceptable these days at this price) Total: 1879,00 Now you're goin to start looking at other options from here. From here, you realize.. the 14" macbook pro M3 laptop is priced at... 2029,00 It's a 150 euro upsell to get that nice space gray M3 laptop. The specs? 8 core CPU, 10 core GPU, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD. You're now going to want to upgrade that RAM once you start to consider the Pro model. That pushes the price to 2259,00! Which is shy of the M3 Pro version of the 14" Macbook Pro (at 2549,00 but now it has 18GB RAM which, you know. For 290 euros more, you can get 2GB more RAM and the M3 Pro). It's just clever positioning of prices to scale the customer into spending the most possible amount and to generate FOMO.
- raverbashing 3y ago
  Yeah But even more annoyingly, in the physical stores (even Apple ones) you're most likely to find only the base models Orders for the custom models can take more than a week sometimes
  - grujicd 3y ago
    Well, I'm waiting for 16Gb/1TB MBA for 6 weeks already, and it's not here yet. It's how long you have to wait in Serbia if you want better than base model. And I was told in advance it will take that long, it wasn't something unexpected.

StillBored 3y ago

Today? My 5-year-old oneplus6 has 8G of RAM and it was like $600 five years ago. It also has a headphone jack BTW.

deafpolygon 3y ago

> a pretty standard trick to make someone commit to a higher price. The worst part is that, this is priced like automobiles. Now you're going to upgrade the RAM, and it reaches the price of its sibling products. You'll be tempted to consider that product. Prices listed in Euros: MacBook Air 13 inch M2 8core cpu, 8core gpu Entry level price: 1299.00 Cpu upgrade +120eu: 8core cpu, 10core gpu <- why does this exist? Solely to upsell you into the Pro level. Ram upgrade +230eu: from 8gb to 16gb <- essential Storage upgrade +230eu: from 256gb (pitiful) to 512gb (barely acceptable these days at this price) Total: 1879,00 Now you're goin to start looking at other options from here. From here, you realize.. the 14" macbook pro M3 laptop is priced at... 2029,00 It's a 150 euro upsell to get that nice space gray M3 laptop. The specs? 8 core CPU, 10 core GPU, 8GB RAM, 512GB SSD. You're now going to want to upgrade that RAM once you start to consider the Pro model. That pushes the price to 2259,00! Which is shy of the M3 Pro version of the 14" Macbook Pro (at 2549,00 but now it has 18GB RAM which, you know. For 290 euros more, you can get 2GB more RAM and the M3 Pro). It's just clever positioning of prices to scale the customer into spending the most possible amount and to generate FOMO.

raverbashing 3y ago
Yeah But even more annoyingly, in the physical stores (even Apple ones) you're most likely to find only the base models Orders for the custom models can take more than a week sometimes
- grujicd 3y ago
  Well, I'm waiting for 16Gb/1TB MBA for 6 weeks already, and it's not here yet. It's how long you have to wait in Serbia if you want better than base model. And I was told in advance it will take that long, it wasn't something unexpected.