shhhh... <wisper> You can get any number of the "low end" thinkpads, which have socketed ram, and put 64G in them for ~$100. And, of course, as other people ha

shhhh... <wisper> You can get any number of the "low end" thinkpads, which have socketed ram, and put 64G in them for ~$100. And, of course, as other people have mentioned, if you are not getting 50% off the MSRP on a Lenovo you're doing it wrong. Wait a couple of days, and it will go on sale. </wisper> I tend to like the L14 line, because while they are a bit chunky, the parts are relatively easy to come by, and its built like a machine from a few years back, meaning everything can be swapped/upgraded. Swap the parts you don't like for something better. I've changed the ram and battery in mine for more capacity and find its nearly the perfect device for me now. I've been considering if one of the older t450ish timeframe keyboards will fit in it after noticing the older keyboards are much, much nicer than what is shipping on the more recent laptops.