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I dislike Outlook as a client for sure, but I must grudgingly admit that Outlook + Exchange is the single best, most usable, most seamless group calendaring & m

I dislike Outlook as a client for sure, but I must grudgingly admit that Outlook + Exchange is the single best, most usable, most seamless group calendaring & meeting tool I've ever used (and I've used a LOT). For that reason, I end up keeping my corporate mail in TWO clients: True desktop Outlook in a Win VM, and also in my Mac's Mail.app. 99% of my mail I handle on the Mac side (for one thing, search is WAY WAY WAY BETTER). But scheduling? True Outlook every time. It's just better. I haven't seen or used the "new Outlook," but it sounds like another example of MSFT calling multiple products by the same name to muddy distinctions for marketing reasons (e.g., "SQL Sever" and "Azure SQL"). "New Outlook" definitely doesn't sound like something I could or would ever use.

jabroni_salad 3y ago
"new outlook" is just the webmail, you can see it at outlook.office365.com if you want. It has a couple benefits. The search is better since it isn't limited to your local cache, and your scheduled emails don't require that you have outlook running on the desktop at go time. I try not to use it otherwise.
- bombcar 3y ago
  Search is the one thing that's been absolutely horrendous - I can be staring at an email, search for a phrase or similar from that email, and it can't find it. And good luck searching for calendar items.
  - ubermonkey 3y ago
    I find, and have always found, that search in Outlook is so bad it's just not worth doing. Search in the native Mac Mail client? Crazy good. Very reliable. Never let me down. Mail clients are kind of all terrible, because right now my favorite one is just the one that does the things that really OUGHT to be the bare minimum: * Reliably send and receive mail * Support IMAP and Exchange * Have the option for local storage of some or all of the mail corpus on any given account * Have fast, accurate, reliable search * Have a rules/filters function (though honestly this is usually something better done server-side) * Have a well-designed, coherent interface that makes rapid work possible * Be at least halfway attractive to look at

jabroni_salad 3y ago

"new outlook" is just the webmail, you can see it at outlook.office365.com if you want. It has a couple benefits. The search is better since it isn't limited to your local cache, and your scheduled emails don't require that you have outlook running on the desktop at go time. I try not to use it otherwise.

bombcar 3y ago
Search is the one thing that's been absolutely horrendous - I can be staring at an email, search for a phrase or similar from that email, and it can't find it. And good luck searching for calendar items.
- ubermonkey 3y ago
  I find, and have always found, that search in Outlook is so bad it's just not worth doing. Search in the native Mac Mail client? Crazy good. Very reliable. Never let me down. Mail clients are kind of all terrible, because right now my favorite one is just the one that does the things that really OUGHT to be the bare minimum: * Reliably send and receive mail * Support IMAP and Exchange * Have the option for local storage of some or all of the mail corpus on any given account * Have fast, accurate, reliable search * Have a rules/filters function (though honestly this is usually something better done server-side) * Have a well-designed, coherent interface that makes rapid work possible * Be at least halfway attractive to look at