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> they'll go through a population boom and bust cycle and it might be another 50 years until their next one There are zero (as far as I am aware of) examples o

> they'll go through a population boom and bust cycle and it might be another 50 years until their next one There are zero (as far as I am aware of) examples of this outcome. Care to share any?

onlyrealcuzzo 3y ago
The plagues, several other pandemics, WWI & II, countless countries that have committed genocide, countless deadly civil wars, Taiping rebellion, French Revolution, Irish Famine, Bengal Famine, Russian Famine, several Indian famines, several Chinese famines, etc.
- roflyear 3y ago
  That's not an example.
YetAnotherNick 3y ago
Not sure why you are downvoted. Every example in recent history is rise in population followed by drop or stable population. No example of cycle I know of.
- roflyear 3y ago
  Pro-natalists, maybe? Seems like they have been getting more popular.
  - satvikpendem 3y ago
    I see more anti-natalists than anything these days. Separately, I see more people who don't want children than those who do, at least online. I am one of the former in that I don't want children, but of course I can extrapolate what might happen if many did not have children. Of course, it is not my job or problem to care about such a scenario in the first place.
    - roflyear 3y ago
      There is a real pro-natalist push: https://nationalpost.com/feature/pronatalism-reborn https://nationalpost.com/feature/pronatalism-reborn
satvikpendem 3y ago
I am referring more to the middle income trap, to be clear [0]. If a country fails to become at the level of prosperity of the first world, it will take some time for them to try again, as its level of prosperity is enough for many of its populace to not have children but not high enough to truly prosper. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_income_trap https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_income_trap
- roflyear 3y ago
  I have no clue how this relates to your comment regarding population growth and decline.

> they'll go through a population boom and bust cycle and it might be another 50 years until their next one There are zero (as far as I am aware of) examples of this outcome. Care to share any?

onlyrealcuzzo 3y ago

The plagues, several other pandemics, WWI & II, countless countries that have committed genocide, countless deadly civil wars, Taiping rebellion, French Revolution, Irish Famine, Bengal Famine, Russian Famine, several Indian famines, several Chinese famines, etc.

roflyear 3y ago
That's not an example.

YetAnotherNick 3y ago

Not sure why you are downvoted. Every example in recent history is rise in population followed by drop or stable population. No example of cycle I know of.

roflyear 3y ago
Pro-natalists, maybe? Seems like they have been getting more popular.
- satvikpendem 3y ago
  I see more anti-natalists than anything these days. Separately, I see more people who don't want children than those who do, at least online. I am one of the former in that I don't want children, but of course I can extrapolate what might happen if many did not have children. Of course, it is not my job or problem to care about such a scenario in the first place.
  - roflyear 3y ago
    There is a real pro-natalist push: https://nationalpost.com/feature/pronatalism-reborn https://nationalpost.com/feature/pronatalism-reborn

satvikpendem 3y ago

I am referring more to the middle income trap, to be clear [0]. If a country fails to become at the level of prosperity of the first world, it will take some time for them to try again, as its level of prosperity is enough for many of its populace to not have children but not high enough to truly prosper. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_income_trap https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_income_trap

roflyear 3y ago
I have no clue how this relates to your comment regarding population growth and decline.