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Social media? Try world leaders directly. Hell, try reading an HN thread anytime it comes up. The lies find a way.

by ianlevesque 3y ago

ploika 3y ago
HN is social media.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  and there are clear, active shillbots here. HN is a lot simpler than a lot of other platforms, too.
sneak 3y ago
The church was responsible for making sure that useful lies were the only legal source of truth for millennia. Now it's the fault of a website?
- jprete 3y ago
  Religions act like governments - their first inherent preference is stability. SV ideology is explicitly anti-stability, exemplified by the phrase “move fast and break things”.
  - teamonkey 3y ago
    Worth paying attention to whose things are being broken and whose things are being reinforced as a result.
  - ganzuul 3y ago
    This is why civilians can't have nukes.
  - sneak 3y ago
    The social order was never on the table for breaking. SV depends on banking and state violence for enforcement just as any other wealthy businesspeople do. A brief study of the history of SV will show you that it was actually the US military (and its money) that is in many ways responsible for creating the culture of groundbreaking that exists there to date.
makomk 3y ago
The conventional media seems to have a huge axe to grind about social media, presumably because it's affected their own influence and prestige, which has warped people's perception of reality a tad. For example, there was a BBC article a while back that made it on to here aboutt how the UK was supposedly at risk of a measles outbreak because vaccination rates had dropped due to Facebook misinformation - except if you actually looked into the details, it turned out those childhood MMR vaccination rates were only down a fraction of a percent from the all-time high. The bigger danger that our medical experts were worried about was all the adults who hadn't gotten vaccinated as kids decades ago due to Wakefield, long before social media or most people had internet access, and the BBC was of course one of the main organisations that spread those claims.

Social media? Try world leaders directly. Hell, try reading an HN thread anytime it comes up. The lies find a way.

ploika 3y ago

HN is social media.

red-iron-pine 3y ago
and there are clear, active shillbots here. HN is a lot simpler than a lot of other platforms, too.

sneak 3y ago

The church was responsible for making sure that useful lies were the only legal source of truth for millennia. Now it's the fault of a website?

jprete 3y ago
Religions act like governments - their first inherent preference is stability. SV ideology is explicitly anti-stability, exemplified by the phrase “move fast and break things”.
- teamonkey 3y ago
  Worth paying attention to whose things are being broken and whose things are being reinforced as a result.
- ganzuul 3y ago
  This is why civilians can't have nukes.
- sneak 3y ago
  The social order was never on the table for breaking. SV depends on banking and state violence for enforcement just as any other wealthy businesspeople do. A brief study of the history of SV will show you that it was actually the US military (and its money) that is in many ways responsible for creating the culture of groundbreaking that exists there to date.

makomk 3y ago

The conventional media seems to have a huge axe to grind about social media, presumably because it's affected their own influence and prestige, which has warped people's perception of reality a tad. For example, there was a BBC article a while back that made it on to here aboutt how the UK was supposedly at risk of a measles outbreak because vaccination rates had dropped due to Facebook misinformation - except if you actually looked into the details, it turned out those childhood MMR vaccination rates were only down a fraction of a percent from the all-time high. The bigger danger that our medical experts were worried about was all the adults who hadn't gotten vaccinated as kids decades ago due to Wakefield, long before social media or most people had internet access, and the BBC was of course one of the main organisations that spread those claims.