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What advantages do you find over Linux?

torstenvl 3y ago
You know how there's a constant stream of weird things Linux does that annoy and confuse you? Like .sudo_as_admin_successful showing up in your home directory with no way to turn it off and nothing really documented anywhere? Or being afraid to upgrade because you don't know which method won't clobber your custom kernel modules? That stuff happens a lot less on FreeBSD.
- BirAdam 3y ago
  You can get rid of a lot of unexpected behavior just by using Slackware. I like the BSDs, but I also like having broader hardware and software compatibility.
  - torstenvl 3y ago
    Sure. I'm not married to the FreeBSD kernel, but to the BSD approach generally. If someone did the opposite of Debian/kFreeBSD I would be interested. FreeBSD/kLinux?
    - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
      Chimera Linux?
  - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
    > Since its first beta release in April of 1993, the Slackware Linux Project has aimed at producing the most "UNIX-like" Linux distribution out there. - http://www.slackware.com/info/ http://www.slackware.com/info/ A person could reasonably argue that Slackware was always a BSD that happened to use the Linux kernel:)
- 79a6ed87 3y ago
  I've only seen that in Debian-based or Ubuntu-based distributions
doublerabbit 3y ago
It's not Linux. I have more than one gripe with Linux and FreeBSD free those. Yes Linux can do all those things but that's not the reason here. The kernel feels solid and bHyve is a goddess. Jails are great for running isolated browsers with sound.
- livrem 3y ago
  > bHyve is a goddess Does it work well with graphics? I just started using FreeBSD and one of the first thing I did was to follow the Handbook instructions to set up a minimal Debian in Bhyve that I then used to access my old Linux partitions to copy files. Works very well for that and I have no complaints, but I also can't say I noticed any major improvement over Qemu? But I made a quick attempt to also install something with graphics, probably Lubuntu, and I did not get that to boot. Is the graphics good enough to play games and run some Linux-only applications with reasonable performance?
  - doublerabbit 3y ago
    The hypervisor is not enterprise like VMware where you can easily pass 3D accelerated adapters. But it's still very usable over remote-desktop. Windows Server works a charm, as does Linux Desktops via VNC or whatever remote protocol you use. You can pass though hardware devices including graphic cards but you need to have it as a secondary and unused. bHyve is unable to use the primary card as well as a shared device for the guest.
    - wkat4242 3y ago
      Yeah the thing is that bhyve doesn't seem to have an emulated console like the other virtualization solutions out there. That makes things a little more cumbersome. I'm not even talking about 3D passthrough. Just a fake VGA adapter you can see in a window so you can run an installer.
      - ptx 3y ago
        It provides a graphical console over VNC: https://github.com/churchers/vm-bhyve/wiki/UEFI-Graphics-(VNC) https://github.com/churchers/vm-bhyve/wiki/UEFI-Graphics-(VN...

You know how there's a constant stream of weird things Linux does that annoy and confuse you? Like .sudo_as_admin_successful showing up in your home directory with no way to turn it off and nothing really documented anywhere? Or being afraid to upgrade because you don't know which method won't clobber your custom kernel modules? That stuff happens a lot less on FreeBSD.

BirAdam 3y ago
You can get rid of a lot of unexpected behavior just by using Slackware. I like the BSDs, but I also like having broader hardware and software compatibility.
- torstenvl 3y ago
  Sure. I'm not married to the FreeBSD kernel, but to the BSD approach generally. If someone did the opposite of Debian/kFreeBSD I would be interested. FreeBSD/kLinux?
  - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
    Chimera Linux?
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
  > Since its first beta release in April of 1993, the Slackware Linux Project has aimed at producing the most "UNIX-like" Linux distribution out there. - http://www.slackware.com/info/ http://www.slackware.com/info/ A person could reasonably argue that Slackware was always a BSD that happened to use the Linux kernel:)
79a6ed87 3y ago
I've only seen that in Debian-based or Ubuntu-based distributions

doublerabbit 3y ago

It's not Linux. I have more than one gripe with Linux and FreeBSD free those. Yes Linux can do all those things but that's not the reason here. The kernel feels solid and bHyve is a goddess. Jails are great for running isolated browsers with sound.

livrem 3y ago
> bHyve is a goddess Does it work well with graphics? I just started using FreeBSD and one of the first thing I did was to follow the Handbook instructions to set up a minimal Debian in Bhyve that I then used to access my old Linux partitions to copy files. Works very well for that and I have no complaints, but I also can't say I noticed any major improvement over Qemu? But I made a quick attempt to also install something with graphics, probably Lubuntu, and I did not get that to boot. Is the graphics good enough to play games and run some Linux-only applications with reasonable performance?
- doublerabbit 3y ago
  The hypervisor is not enterprise like VMware where you can easily pass 3D accelerated adapters. But it's still very usable over remote-desktop. Windows Server works a charm, as does Linux Desktops via VNC or whatever remote protocol you use. You can pass though hardware devices including graphic cards but you need to have it as a secondary and unused. bHyve is unable to use the primary card as well as a shared device for the guest.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    Yeah the thing is that bhyve doesn't seem to have an emulated console like the other virtualization solutions out there. That makes things a little more cumbersome. I'm not even talking about 3D passthrough. Just a fake VGA adapter you can see in a window so you can run an installer.
    - ptx 3y ago
      It provides a graphical console over VNC: https://github.com/churchers/vm-bhyve/wiki/UEFI-Graphics-(VNC) https://github.com/churchers/vm-bhyve/wiki/UEFI-Graphics-(VN...