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How is giving people more options a bad thing? If somebody does want a larger screen and two monitor setup but will only ever be using it for light web, the 8GB

How is giving people more options a bad thing? If somebody does want a larger screen and two monitor setup but will only ever be using it for light web, the 8GB machine is probably perfect for them. And thinking "you shouldn't be paying extra" is just bias. Just select the configuration you need, look how much it costs and figure if this is what you want to pay. You are not paying anything extra. They clearly tell you how much you are going to pay for the configuration you want.

madeofpalk 3y ago
The actual complaint implicit in all this is that the upgrade pricing has always been, and still is, pretty expensive.
- onetimeuse92304 3y ago
  But that complain doesn't make sense IMO. There are other laptops you can buy for cheaper. And even Apple has Macbook Air which is much cheaper while still more than enough to do most types of office tasks or internet browsing. So someobody wants not only a Macbook, but also a new Macbook and top model for that matter. It is like saying you want to buy top of the line Mercedes and complain the options are expensive. Yes, they are expensive, but nobody forces you to buy top of the line Mercedes. If you can't afford, don't complain about it.
dcow 3y ago
The point is not that more options is bad, it’s that Apple is marking ram up more than what the author considers a reasonable amount. In the past you could buy a 3rd party sodimm module and pop it in for much cheaper but now you can’t since everything is an SoC now.
bakugo 3y ago
When the "option" is paying $200 for an extra 8GB of RAM or 512GB of storage that would cost 1/10th of that if you bought it as a separate part, yes, it's a bad thing.
throwaway290 3y ago
Agreed. News at 11: cheapest model of [insert product here] only has [insert low spec here] which is not enough for anything but most trivial uses. Therefore [insert brand here] is bad? How about "do a few minutes of research and buy what fits your requirements"? Or even "buy and return if it's not enough for your requirements"? And as for non-replaceable RAM, that's the same thing as with battery or SSD or whatever else-- no one makes a fuss about it because no one wants to lug around large heavy laptops. Non-replaceable components is what made these super small and light and blazing fast if you pay for specced up versions.

madeofpalk 3y ago

The actual complaint implicit in all this is that the upgrade pricing has always been, and still is, pretty expensive.

onetimeuse92304 3y ago
But that complain doesn't make sense IMO. There are other laptops you can buy for cheaper. And even Apple has Macbook Air which is much cheaper while still more than enough to do most types of office tasks or internet browsing. So someobody wants not only a Macbook, but also a new Macbook and top model for that matter. It is like saying you want to buy top of the line Mercedes and complain the options are expensive. Yes, they are expensive, but nobody forces you to buy top of the line Mercedes. If you can't afford, don't complain about it.

dcow 3y ago

The point is not that more options is bad, it’s that Apple is marking ram up more than what the author considers a reasonable amount. In the past you could buy a 3rd party sodimm module and pop it in for much cheaper but now you can’t since everything is an SoC now.

bakugo 3y ago

When the "option" is paying $200 for an extra 8GB of RAM or 512GB of storage that would cost 1/10th of that if you bought it as a separate part, yes, it's a bad thing.

throwaway290 3y ago

Agreed. News at 11: cheapest model of [insert product here] only has [insert low spec here] which is not enough for anything but most trivial uses. Therefore [insert brand here] is bad? How about "do a few minutes of research and buy what fits your requirements"? Or even "buy and return if it's not enough for your requirements"? And as for non-replaceable RAM, that's the same thing as with battery or SSD or whatever else-- no one makes a fuss about it because no one wants to lug around large heavy laptops. Non-replaceable components is what made these super small and light and blazing fast if you pay for specced up versions.