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> an application with literal zero monetary value > $0.001 USD We can't have it both ways: either paying a token is a disincentive to spam job postings, which

by hiq 3y ago

> an application with literal zero monetary value > $0.001 USD We can't have it both ways: either paying a token is a disincentive to spam job postings, which means the token actually has monetary value that's higher than zero; or it's not, then it's useless.

rglullis 3y ago
I mentioning transferring small dollar amounts just to show that it is not feasible to do it with regular money transfers. > (either) the token actually has monetary value that's higher than zero; or it's not, then it's useless. Are you familiar with Germany's Pfand system? You go to a beer garden, get your pint which costs (say) 5€. The bartender asks you for 7€, meaning a 2€ "pfand". You get your beer and a physical, plastic token. When you are done with your beer, you go back to the bar and if you return your glass with the token, you get your 2€ back. The key thing is that you need to bring both. Lost the token? No cash back for you, might as well take the glass home. Lost/broke the glass? The token is worthless. The point here is that the token, by itself, has no value. It's sole purpose is to be a unit of accounting.
- hiq 3y ago
  In your example, the 2€ deposit works as an incentive to bring back the glass. Without this incentive, the token on its own is useless. The token merely serves to prevent some side-effect of the deposit (e.g. people could try to return glasses from other patrons or other bars). Similarly, having job tokens independent of any kind of deposit or incentive will not prevent anyone from spamming applications.
  - rglullis 3y ago
    > Similarly, having job tokens independent of any kind of deposit or incentive will not prevent anyone from spamming applications. People will still have to find a way to get the tokens. They are not going to be creating them out of thin air.

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> an application with literal zero monetary value > $0.001 USD We can't have it both ways: either paying a token is a disincentive to spam job postings, which

by hiq 3y ago

rglullis 3y ago
I mentioning transferring small dollar amounts just to show that it is not feasible to do it with regular money transfers. > (either) the token actually has monetary value that's higher than zero; or it's not, then it's useless. Are you familiar with Germany's Pfand system? You go to a beer garden, get your pint which costs (say) 5€. The bartender asks you for 7€, meaning a 2€ "pfand". You get your beer and a physical, plastic token. When you are done with your beer, you go back to the bar and if you return your glass with the token, you get your 2€ back. The key thing is that you need to bring both. Lost the token? No cash back for you, might as well take the glass home. Lost/broke the glass? The token is worthless. The point here is that the token, by itself, has no value. It's sole purpose is to be a unit of accounting.
- hiq 3y ago
  In your example, the 2€ deposit works as an incentive to bring back the glass. Without this incentive, the token on its own is useless. The token merely serves to prevent some side-effect of the deposit (e.g. people could try to return glasses from other patrons or other bars). Similarly, having job tokens independent of any kind of deposit or incentive will not prevent anyone from spamming applications.
  - rglullis 3y ago
    > Similarly, having job tokens independent of any kind of deposit or incentive will not prevent anyone from spamming applications. People will still have to find a way to get the tokens. They are not going to be creating them out of thin air.