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Can Canonical at least make snaps work nicely if we're really going all in? I don't want to run things in classic mode or whatever just so they can access the

by corobo 3y ago

Can Canonical at least make snaps work nicely if we're really going all in? I don't want to run things in classic mode or whatever just so they can access the data they need. Please, make snapd or whatever supervises these things pop a modal and ask for permissions like Mac does. I'll follow you into the dark, Ubuntu, but not if the stuff is broken. Same goes to flatpaks and any other "this is better, no seriously it is.. oh except that, yeah that doesn't work" package managers At the very least if the app fails to start please show the dang error message! I have to manually run the binary on the CLI just to see why things aren't working sometimes. No info or error of any kind lol, they just don't start.

lproven 3y ago
AIUI snap confinement is primarily done by AppArmor, which is not a Canonical project. Ask them.
- curt15 3y ago
  Doesn't Snap confinement depend on Ubuntu-specific patches to Apparmor?
  - lproven 3y ago
    Interesting -- this is the first I have heard of it. The only reference I can find is this: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snapd-still-requires-out-of-tree-apparmor-patches-for-strict-confinement/19632 https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snapd-still-requires-out-of-tre... I will see if I can find out any more.
- corobo 3y ago
  I'm not asking some random dependency for support with Canonical's broken software, that's a dick move
  - lproven 3y ago
    It's really not. "AppArmor fails if home directories not in /home/" is a legit bug (as someone just claimed over on LWN). You haven't specified what your issue is but if it's something clear like that, it's perfectly reasonable. Trying to blame a product you don't like from a company you apparently don't like for a problem in a 3rd party tool... that's a dick move, IMHO.
    - corobo 3y ago
      Fair point, I'll have to look into who's doing what then. I truly have no problems with snap as an idea, at least I'm not as passionate as many snap dislikers. I just want the apps I open to open or error out tbh The whole [nothing happens] is the infuriating part haha. Is it slow to load or has it given up. Anyway aye fair point. Kneejerk reactions often lead to dick moves.
      - lproven 3y ago
        Nice. Well said. :-)

by corobo 3y ago

lproven 3y ago

AIUI snap confinement is primarily done by AppArmor, which is not a Canonical project. Ask them.

curt15 3y ago
Doesn't Snap confinement depend on Ubuntu-specific patches to Apparmor?
- lproven 3y ago
  Interesting -- this is the first I have heard of it. The only reference I can find is this: https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snapd-still-requires-out-of-tree-apparmor-patches-for-strict-confinement/19632 https://forum.snapcraft.io/t/snapd-still-requires-out-of-tre... I will see if I can find out any more.
corobo 3y ago
I'm not asking some random dependency for support with Canonical's broken software, that's a dick move
- lproven 3y ago
  It's really not. "AppArmor fails if home directories not in /home/" is a legit bug (as someone just claimed over on LWN). You haven't specified what your issue is but if it's something clear like that, it's perfectly reasonable. Trying to blame a product you don't like from a company you apparently don't like for a problem in a 3rd party tool... that's a dick move, IMHO.
  - corobo 3y ago
    Fair point, I'll have to look into who's doing what then. I truly have no problems with snap as an idea, at least I'm not as passionate as many snap dislikers. I just want the apps I open to open or error out tbh The whole [nothing happens] is the infuriating part haha. Is it slow to load or has it given up. Anyway aye fair point. Kneejerk reactions often lead to dick moves.
    - lproven 3y ago
      Nice. Well said. :-)