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Snap does a really good job of solving this. The software selection is very good, between Apt and snap, which are both browsable with the same GUI. The snap

Snap does a really good job of solving this. The software selection is very good, between Apt and snap, which are both browsable with the same GUI. The snap versions are not outdated, because they don't have to deal with the whole shared dependencies thing like traditional Linux packages, they bundle everything and don't have to stay in sync with everything else. It's not quite as perfect as Android, but stuff generally just works. I used to have a collection of AppImages, now all that is in the snap store. I haven't seen any custom package repos or .tar.gz installers(With the exception of Ardour and their downloadable installer, and Chrome's .deb installer) since switching. I think one of my next tech project s is probably going to be learning to create Snaps myself

pmontra 3y ago
> It's not quite as perfect as Android, but stuff generally just works. My Android phone is telling me on the notifications bar that I have updates for YouTube and Google Meet. This morning told me that some app were put into deep sleep. I checked which one and it was F-Droid. I opened it and found two apps to upgrade in there. Then I know that I have apps from the Samsung Store to upgrade but I somewhat silenced that store. I never installed anything from there nor I logged into it. I wish it goes away and that this Samsung phone is not the smallest and lightest Android still on the market. Then there is K-9 which I install from an APK because they severely busted the UI after 5.6000. So maybe Android is perfect but it could be more perfect. My Debian 10 laptop is a mix of deb, docker images, downloaded installers, package managers for several languages, so more or less the same stuff as my phone except that it doesn't disable apps that it mistakenly detects as not used.
bondarchuk 3y ago
> Snap does a really good job of solving this. xkcd 927 how standards proliferate
- lproven 3y ago
  Which, again, is linked and mentioned in TFA. I know because I wrote it. « This is better than not having one – or, even worse, having more than one, as XKCD 927 beautifully illustrates. »
- eternityforest 3y ago
  927 is a really overused comic. It doesn't apply if companies are big enough to push them pretty much by fiat. There are no true competing standards because none of them are built into Ubuntu, which is a major benefit. It you make a snap package you know any Ubuntu user can install it on very few clicks. The only other things built into Ubuntu are apt and manual install, which have obvious issues and aren't direct competition.

pmontra 3y ago

> It's not quite as perfect as Android, but stuff generally just works. My Android phone is telling me on the notifications bar that I have updates for YouTube and Google Meet. This morning told me that some app were put into deep sleep. I checked which one and it was F-Droid. I opened it and found two apps to upgrade in there. Then I know that I have apps from the Samsung Store to upgrade but I somewhat silenced that store. I never installed anything from there nor I logged into it. I wish it goes away and that this Samsung phone is not the smallest and lightest Android still on the market. Then there is K-9 which I install from an APK because they severely busted the UI after 5.6000. So maybe Android is perfect but it could be more perfect. My Debian 10 laptop is a mix of deb, docker images, downloaded installers, package managers for several languages, so more or less the same stuff as my phone except that it doesn't disable apps that it mistakenly detects as not used.

bondarchuk 3y ago

> Snap does a really good job of solving this. xkcd 927 how standards proliferate

lproven 3y ago
Which, again, is linked and mentioned in TFA. I know because I wrote it. « This is better than not having one – or, even worse, having more than one, as XKCD 927 beautifully illustrates. »
eternityforest 3y ago
927 is a really overused comic. It doesn't apply if companies are big enough to push them pretty much by fiat. There are no true competing standards because none of them are built into Ubuntu, which is a major benefit. It you make a snap package you know any Ubuntu user can install it on very few clicks. The only other things built into Ubuntu are apt and manual install, which have obvious issues and aren't direct competition.