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> They're more likely to buy a budget laptop in the 400-500 range I'd imagine the TCO on those bargain basement laptops is terrible, so I doubt they're really

> They're more likely to buy a budget laptop in the 400-500 range I'd imagine the TCO on those bargain basement laptops is terrible, so I doubt they're really a big sell for corporate buyers.

benterix 3y ago
Not necessarily - it depends how easily you can upgrade off-the shelf NVMs and RAM, and how much RAM its motherboard supports.
- stephenr 3y ago
  (A) the actual purchase cost for memory, whether its $200 or $20 is essentially irrelevant when it comes to TCO. (B) In my experience corporate machines simply aren't upgraded. You get enough for the job when you order it. If you need more, you get a new machine and the old one is repurposed or retired if it's remaining usable life is short.
  - benterix 3y ago
    Yes, you are completely right. In my experience though, the machines do get upgrades if someone insists, and the tech department prefers the easiest possible way. I remember in a n org I worked a few years ago we got new laptops with SSDs instead of HDDs. Everybody was happy except the people who worked with a lot of data as the first SSDs were very small like 128 GB (still the amount of disk space you would get in an entry-level MBP 2019 I think). So we asked for an upgrade and they replaced our SSDs rather than replacing whole laptops. But I'm sure it's place-dependent.
  - ghaff 3y ago
    >In my experience corporate machines simply aren't upgraded. Yeah. It would basically be insane for a company to nickel and dime laptop purchases and then pay an IT person to do bespoke upgrades. Like a lot of things that may seem sensible on a personal level where labor is cheap/free, they don't make sense when you're paying someone $50+ an hour to do them.
staringback 3y ago
$299 Inspirons these days come with NVMe storage and 6 core Intel CPUs
- wlesieutre 3y ago
  Still the 1366x768 displays that they were using 10 years ago?
  - _ea1k 3y ago
    Just a quick glance at the dell website shows me an Inspiron 15 w/ 8GB RAM, and a 256GB nvme for $279. I'm sure the panel isn't great, but it is 1080p. It is an i3, but still... this is $279! Do some bargain hunting and you can find some pretty decent machines for <$500 now.
    - staringback 3y ago
      That 'i3' runs circles around i7 laptop CPUs from just a couple of years ago
- stephenr 3y ago
  You do know what the "T" in "TCO" stands for right? Hint: it's not the price you paid for the hardware upfront.

> They're more likely to buy a budget laptop in the 400-500 range I'd imagine the TCO on those bargain basement laptops is terrible, so I doubt they're really a big sell for corporate buyers.

benterix 3y ago

Not necessarily - it depends how easily you can upgrade off-the shelf NVMs and RAM, and how much RAM its motherboard supports.

stephenr 3y ago
(A) the actual purchase cost for memory, whether its $200 or $20 is essentially irrelevant when it comes to TCO. (B) In my experience corporate machines simply aren't upgraded. You get enough for the job when you order it. If you need more, you get a new machine and the old one is repurposed or retired if it's remaining usable life is short.
- benterix 3y ago
  Yes, you are completely right. In my experience though, the machines do get upgrades if someone insists, and the tech department prefers the easiest possible way. I remember in a n org I worked a few years ago we got new laptops with SSDs instead of HDDs. Everybody was happy except the people who worked with a lot of data as the first SSDs were very small like 128 GB (still the amount of disk space you would get in an entry-level MBP 2019 I think). So we asked for an upgrade and they replaced our SSDs rather than replacing whole laptops. But I'm sure it's place-dependent.
- ghaff 3y ago
  >In my experience corporate machines simply aren't upgraded. Yeah. It would basically be insane for a company to nickel and dime laptop purchases and then pay an IT person to do bespoke upgrades. Like a lot of things that may seem sensible on a personal level where labor is cheap/free, they don't make sense when you're paying someone $50+ an hour to do them.

staringback 3y ago

$299 Inspirons these days come with NVMe storage and 6 core Intel CPUs

wlesieutre 3y ago
Still the 1366x768 displays that they were using 10 years ago?
- _ea1k 3y ago
  Just a quick glance at the dell website shows me an Inspiron 15 w/ 8GB RAM, and a 256GB nvme for $279. I'm sure the panel isn't great, but it is 1080p. It is an i3, but still... this is $279! Do some bargain hunting and you can find some pretty decent machines for <$500 now.
  - staringback 3y ago
    That 'i3' runs circles around i7 laptop CPUs from just a couple of years ago
stephenr 3y ago
You do know what the "T" in "TCO" stands for right? Hint: it's not the price you paid for the hardware upfront.