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Eh most workers prefer tipping as they can usually make more with tipping then they can with an increased wage. The real problem is where tipping is now demand

Eh most workers prefer tipping as they can usually make more with tipping then they can with an increased wage. The real problem is where tipping is now demanded when no customer service is given or before.

denysvitali 3y ago
The real problem is that minimum wages are too low. If you make more in tips than with your wage - there is something conceptually wrong. I understand this is the norm in the States, but in Europe this is definitely not the case (as far as I know).
- preommr 3y ago
  States like california have a comparable (if not higher) minimum wage and require the servers to be paid at least the minimum. I guarantee you, if european servers had a chance, they too would try to charge tips as much as possible because they do make way more with it.
  - denysvitali 3y ago
    Europe and the States are culturally different - servers in Europe don't ask for a tip on the receipt. Actually they don't ask it at all since it's not a thing they do expect. The only way for them to increase their chances of getting tipped is by... providing an outstanding service - which is how tipping should work. Something exceptional deserves to be rewarded
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xur17 3y ago
Or when the tip is requested before any service has been rendered. Delivery apps are the worst at this - I had a bad enough experience on one delivery that I reached out to support to reduce the tip. But realistically I'd rather it just be built into the price.
- denysvitali 3y ago
  For this one the easiest solution is to always tip 0% in the app, and tip in cash directly. This is the only way to be sure that the money you're tipping are going directly to the rider.
  - xur17 3y ago
    My understanding is that orders get picked by drivers somewhat based on tip amount.
    - denysvitali 3y ago
      Which app do you use? Uber Eats (in Europe at least) ask for tips _after_ the delivery. If they do it before, then I agree with you, it's totally stupid
      - xur17 3y ago
        Doordash, and they ask for it before, and then ask if you want to increase it afterwards (with no option to decrease it).

denysvitali 3y ago

The real problem is that minimum wages are too low. If you make more in tips than with your wage - there is something conceptually wrong. I understand this is the norm in the States, but in Europe this is definitely not the case (as far as I know).

preommr 3y ago
States like california have a comparable (if not higher) minimum wage and require the servers to be paid at least the minimum. I guarantee you, if european servers had a chance, they too would try to charge tips as much as possible because they do make way more with it.
- denysvitali 3y ago
  Europe and the States are culturally different - servers in Europe don't ask for a tip on the receipt. Actually they don't ask it at all since it's not a thing they do expect. The only way for them to increase their chances of getting tipped is by... providing an outstanding service - which is how tipping should work. Something exceptional deserves to be rewarded

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xur17 3y ago

Or when the tip is requested before any service has been rendered. Delivery apps are the worst at this - I had a bad enough experience on one delivery that I reached out to support to reduce the tip. But realistically I'd rather it just be built into the price.

denysvitali 3y ago
For this one the easiest solution is to always tip 0% in the app, and tip in cash directly. This is the only way to be sure that the money you're tipping are going directly to the rider.
- xur17 3y ago
  My understanding is that orders get picked by drivers somewhat based on tip amount.
  - denysvitali 3y ago
    Which app do you use? Uber Eats (in Europe at least) ask for tips _after_ the delivery. If they do it before, then I agree with you, it's totally stupid
    - xur17 3y ago
      Doordash, and they ask for it before, and then ask if you want to increase it afterwards (with no option to decrease it).