> They were skipping all the good software engineering basics. I'm curious, are they paid developer rates, or engineering rates? To that point, do they not un

> They were skipping all the good software engineering basics. I'm curious, are they paid developer rates, or engineering rates? To that point, do they not understand that without "the basics" on their CVs their market value is diminished, perhaps greatly? Has anyone said *exactly* why they are against adopting Best Practice A or Best Practice B? All that asked, if they are - for all intents and purposes - *intentionally* putting the company (read: your income and the income of many others) at risk then firing is in order. But!!! Speak to someone in legal first. You're going to need documentation to avoid legal issues. p.s. As a web developer, I've left more than one agency because of lack of "the basics". I'm simply not comfortable seeing clients get charged "we follow best practices" rates and they get far less. Does your team not understand how many others would love to work sonewhere that embraced "the basics"? Boggles my mind.