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G/O Media shutters Jezebel, lays off 23 people

44 points by rurp 3y ago

cbozeman 3y ago
Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people. This site has long been a thinly veiled man-hating haven for the most depressed and cynical human beings on the planet and I'm beyond thrilled to see it go. I was supremely disappointed when Thiel's takedown of Gawker didn't also kill Jezebel. I've absolutely had it with so-called "journalism" that outlets like these have been doing. I get better journalism listening to Blocked & Reported which is solely about, as the hosts themselves admit, "Internet bullshit". It's a damned travesty - the depths to which Western journalism has sunk.
- AtlasBarfed 3y ago
  Hey, female incels need a place too? IMO the damage that Jezebel really did was, despite its ultra feminist man hating, the site was still basically a celebrity gossip rag. The "hey we are taking a radical intellectual take on male dominated society" gets really undermined by "oh and I just have to know the latest on Bennifer". I do understand though, you need clicks somehow, but you could feel the self-loathing by the employees. I hope Gizmodo goes away too. The amount of anti-intellectualism, ignorance of basic alternative energy and EV trends, and cheerleading for "big internet" is nauseating. Jalopnik can't exist without hating on Elon Musk. Yes there's a lot to hate, but they are definitely way over the "outrageous irrational hatred" and it spills into EVs, alternative energy, and battery tech ignorance/misinformation on the regular because of it.
  - muoni 3y ago
    > IMO the damage that Jezebel really did was, despite its ultra feminist man hating Not really true. As soon as any of those men called himself a woman they would be fawning all over him. Also Jezebel was very much in favor of sex work despite all the very well documented harms to women. Aside from a bit of spicy rhetoric, they were just your typical handmaiden libfems pandering to male desires. It's no loss.
- cantSpellSober 3y ago
  Most of those talking points are covered in the original discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38208742 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38208742 Even your opening line, Theil, journalism bad, etc
  - cbozeman 3y ago
    That's the original discussion for you, maybe. I didn't see that one. At any rate, whoever wrote is right. Except the ordering of your words is wrong. Journalism not bad. Bad journalism is bad - it's worse than bad, it's a disservice to the public. Journalists have a duty to the public and must be held to the highest ethical standards.
    - cantSpellSober 3y ago
      I just didn't feel like a subtle summary of an endlessly regurgitated sound bite. Plenty of examples in the original, like this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38210394 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38210394
JCharante 3y ago
> The big picture: Publishers that are heavily dependent on digital advertising have been forced to reimagine their business models to account for volatility in the ad market. Scapegoat. The gizmodo & kotaku family of sites have a history of despicable actions committed and struggle to create any value.
- cantSpellSober 3y ago
  Takes bravery to talk shit about tech or gaming sites on this one, thank you. Enjoy downvotes as your reward :( I don't think it's a total scapegoat, Google ate the advertising market, ad-based revenue is quickly becoming an unsustainable model.
ChrisArchitect 3y ago
[dupe] More discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38208742 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38208742
i386 3y ago
I miss the days when Jezebel articles would be cross posted to Gawker.com and the commenter cultures would collide. Truly a golden age.
norwalkbear 3y ago
Maybe there is a god, Jezebel inspired man hating to an obnoxious level, my cousin killed himself over their height shaming stuff
- cantSpellSober 3y ago
  I'm truly sorry for your loss. I'm fearful of how much easier it is to share hate speech now, compared to even just a decade ago. You're not alone in your suffering or grief. Wishing you peace.
stuckinhell 3y ago
Jezebel was a cancer that promoted dehumanization. The people who worked there deserve jail for the hate they spread into the world.
- cantSpellSober 3y ago
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phendrenad2 3y ago
Was Jezebel ever profitable? Maybe I'm a fool but I find it hard to believe that anyone was clicking on the endless stream of "men are the worst" articles. It seems like a startup company that tried a niche and found no value there. Glad we got that out of the way, I guess.

44 points by rurp 3y ago

Couldn't have happened to a nicer bunch of people. This site has long been a thinly veiled man-hating haven for the most depressed and cynical human beings on the planet and I'm beyond thrilled to see it go. I was supremely disappointed when Thiel's takedown of Gawker didn't also kill Jezebel. I've absolutely had it with so-called "journalism" that outlets like these have been doing. I get better journalism listening to Blocked & Reported which is solely about, as the hosts themselves admit, "Internet bullshit". It's a damned travesty - the depths to which Western journalism has sunk.

AtlasBarfed 3y ago
Hey, female incels need a place too? IMO the damage that Jezebel really did was, despite its ultra feminist man hating, the site was still basically a celebrity gossip rag. The "hey we are taking a radical intellectual take on male dominated society" gets really undermined by "oh and I just have to know the latest on Bennifer". I do understand though, you need clicks somehow, but you could feel the self-loathing by the employees. I hope Gizmodo goes away too. The amount of anti-intellectualism, ignorance of basic alternative energy and EV trends, and cheerleading for "big internet" is nauseating. Jalopnik can't exist without hating on Elon Musk. Yes there's a lot to hate, but they are definitely way over the "outrageous irrational hatred" and it spills into EVs, alternative energy, and battery tech ignorance/misinformation on the regular because of it.
- muoni 3y ago
  > IMO the damage that Jezebel really did was, despite its ultra feminist man hating Not really true. As soon as any of those men called himself a woman they would be fawning all over him. Also Jezebel was very much in favor of sex work despite all the very well documented harms to women. Aside from a bit of spicy rhetoric, they were just your typical handmaiden libfems pandering to male desires. It's no loss.
cantSpellSober 3y ago
Most of those talking points are covered in the original discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38208742 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38208742 Even your opening line, Theil, journalism bad, etc
- cbozeman 3y ago
  That's the original discussion for you, maybe. I didn't see that one. At any rate, whoever wrote is right. Except the ordering of your words is wrong. Journalism not bad. Bad journalism is bad - it's worse than bad, it's a disservice to the public. Journalists have a duty to the public and must be held to the highest ethical standards.
  - cantSpellSober 3y ago
    I just didn't feel like a subtle summary of an endlessly regurgitated sound bite. Plenty of examples in the original, like this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38210394 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38210394

JCharante 3y ago

> The big picture: Publishers that are heavily dependent on digital advertising have been forced to reimagine their business models to account for volatility in the ad market. Scapegoat. The gizmodo & kotaku family of sites have a history of despicable actions committed and struggle to create any value.

cantSpellSober 3y ago
Takes bravery to talk shit about tech or gaming sites on this one, thank you. Enjoy downvotes as your reward :( I don't think it's a total scapegoat, Google ate the advertising market, ad-based revenue is quickly becoming an unsustainable model.

ChrisArchitect 3y ago

[dupe] More discussion here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38208742 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38208742

i386 3y ago

I miss the days when Jezebel articles would be cross posted to Gawker.com and the commenter cultures would collide. Truly a golden age.

norwalkbear 3y ago

Maybe there is a god, Jezebel inspired man hating to an obnoxious level, my cousin killed himself over their height shaming stuff

cantSpellSober 3y ago
I'm truly sorry for your loss. I'm fearful of how much easier it is to share hate speech now, compared to even just a decade ago. You're not alone in your suffering or grief. Wishing you peace.

stuckinhell 3y ago

Jezebel was a cancer that promoted dehumanization. The people who worked there deserve jail for the hate they spread into the world.

cantSpellSober 3y ago
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phendrenad2 3y ago

Was Jezebel ever profitable? Maybe I'm a fool but I find it hard to believe that anyone was clicking on the endless stream of "men are the worst" articles. It seems like a startup company that tried a niche and found no value there. Glad we got that out of the way, I guess.