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That's interesting. What should the modern punishment be for this? Israel’s Campaign Against Palestinian Olive Trees http://yris.yira.org/global-issue/6018 ht

That's interesting. What should the modern punishment be for this? Israel’s Campaign Against Palestinian Olive Trees http://yris.yira.org/global-issue/6018 http://yris.yira.org/global-issue/6018 https://www.newarab.com/news/israeli-settlers-destroy-350-trees-west-bank-olive-grove https://www.newarab.com/news/israeli-settlers-destroy-350-tr... https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/11/6/our-hearts-burn-gazas-olive-farmers-say-israel-war-destroys-harvest https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2023/11/6/our-hearts-burn... https://archive.ph/nkfc3 https://archive.ph/nkfc3

ogogmad 3y ago
Thanks for sharing this. Looking into Kedumim Settlement.
r00fus 3y ago
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- anukin 3y ago
  Pray how is buying land from Palestinians and setting there as a country colonialism?
  - ogogmad 3y ago
    These stories don't fit your description: https://nitter.cz/btselem/status/1719647751573524878#m https://nitter.cz/btselem/status/1719647751573524878#m https://www.timesofisrael.com/settlers-rampage-through-palestinian-olive-grove-harass-activists-in-west-bank/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/settlers-rampage-through-pales... Both Israel and Palestine were founded in 1948 by a UN agreement. That agreement gave Israel the right to exist at the same time as Palestine. Package deal. Without the West Bank there's not enough territory to form a Palestinian state. The Palestinians are owed a state because they are the original inhabitants of the land - yes! they are descended from the ancient Israelities: https://nitter.cz/MiroCyo/status/1712258026881921287#m https://nitter.cz/MiroCyo/status/1712258026881921287#m Additionally, the 1948 agreement gave the WB to Palestine. Any subsequent border changes by Israel or surrounding "Arab" countries that violate that agreement are unacceptable if they're not accepted by both Palestine and Israel. It's true that the Palestinian leadership has been reckless and stupid again and again, but it doesn't justify imperialism over their land. We don't have empires any more and Israel isn't entitled to one.
    - shiroiuma 3y ago
      >Without the West Bank there's not enough territory to form a Palestinian state. Monaco would like to have a word with you.
    - junofan 3y ago
      > It's true that the Palestinian leadership has been reckless and stupid again and again, but it doesn't justify imperialism over their land. We don't have empires any more and Israel isn't entitled to one. You might want to take a closer look at the propaganda. I believe it’s “white imperialism” or “US imperialism.” Israel isn’t the empire.
    - mikrotikker 3y ago
      There are still empires... France is still in Africa, the USA has a fancy new drone base in Niger to protect Europe's Nigeria sourced natural gas pipeline, not to mention Obama started incursions into 7 African nations. China plagiarized the USA Imperialist playbook from the 50s to the 80s and is currently implementing it in Africa to good effect, even created their own analogue to the imperialist and exploitative IMF and World Bank, the Asian Development Bank. An then you got Russia.
- unmole 3y ago
  > more and more countries cut off ties economically Israel's biggest trade partners are the US, China, Germany, Switzerland and India. I can totally see how they are going to cut off ties. /s
  - mikrotikker 3y ago
    China is playing both sides. They are supporting Hamas with their propaganda efforts by weaponizing Hamas agitprop on tiktok to drive unrest, division and violence in western countries. They were also trying for a lease on the Lebanese port that exploded, many think Mossad were the ones who exploded the fertilizer dump there. China was also helping with facilities in Iran which mysteriously exploded (again thought to be Mossad).
- southernplaces7 3y ago
  Some people keep saying this but I call plain bullshit. Israel is well connected internationally, it's rich, it's society is full of highly influential people with worldwide connections and it's supported by well-connected foreigners with even more connections in the highest circles. The only thing Israel will reap is more fucktons of multi-billion dollar military contracts, more foreign investment and more economic influence across the board, while a few politicians and UN functionaries do some perfunctionary huffing and puffing as appropriate for PR.
- mikrotikker 3y ago
  How is it colonialism? The UK defeated the Ottoman Empire at war and the land was their war booty. Then the land that was historically the home of the jews was returned to Jewish exiles. There has never been a state known as Palestine, and if there was it would be them who colonized the Jews.

ogogmad 3y ago

Thanks for sharing this. Looking into Kedumim Settlement.

r00fus 3y ago

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anukin 3y ago
Pray how is buying land from Palestinians and setting there as a country colonialism?
- ogogmad 3y ago
  These stories don't fit your description: https://nitter.cz/btselem/status/1719647751573524878#m https://nitter.cz/btselem/status/1719647751573524878#m https://www.timesofisrael.com/settlers-rampage-through-palestinian-olive-grove-harass-activists-in-west-bank/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/settlers-rampage-through-pales... Both Israel and Palestine were founded in 1948 by a UN agreement. That agreement gave Israel the right to exist at the same time as Palestine. Package deal. Without the West Bank there's not enough territory to form a Palestinian state. The Palestinians are owed a state because they are the original inhabitants of the land - yes! they are descended from the ancient Israelities: https://nitter.cz/MiroCyo/status/1712258026881921287#m https://nitter.cz/MiroCyo/status/1712258026881921287#m Additionally, the 1948 agreement gave the WB to Palestine. Any subsequent border changes by Israel or surrounding "Arab" countries that violate that agreement are unacceptable if they're not accepted by both Palestine and Israel. It's true that the Palestinian leadership has been reckless and stupid again and again, but it doesn't justify imperialism over their land. We don't have empires any more and Israel isn't entitled to one.
  - shiroiuma 3y ago
    >Without the West Bank there's not enough territory to form a Palestinian state. Monaco would like to have a word with you.
  - junofan 3y ago
    > It's true that the Palestinian leadership has been reckless and stupid again and again, but it doesn't justify imperialism over their land. We don't have empires any more and Israel isn't entitled to one. You might want to take a closer look at the propaganda. I believe it’s “white imperialism” or “US imperialism.” Israel isn’t the empire.
  - mikrotikker 3y ago
    There are still empires... France is still in Africa, the USA has a fancy new drone base in Niger to protect Europe's Nigeria sourced natural gas pipeline, not to mention Obama started incursions into 7 African nations. China plagiarized the USA Imperialist playbook from the 50s to the 80s and is currently implementing it in Africa to good effect, even created their own analogue to the imperialist and exploitative IMF and World Bank, the Asian Development Bank. An then you got Russia.
unmole 3y ago
> more and more countries cut off ties economically Israel's biggest trade partners are the US, China, Germany, Switzerland and India. I can totally see how they are going to cut off ties. /s
- mikrotikker 3y ago
  China is playing both sides. They are supporting Hamas with their propaganda efforts by weaponizing Hamas agitprop on tiktok to drive unrest, division and violence in western countries. They were also trying for a lease on the Lebanese port that exploded, many think Mossad were the ones who exploded the fertilizer dump there. China was also helping with facilities in Iran which mysteriously exploded (again thought to be Mossad).
southernplaces7 3y ago
Some people keep saying this but I call plain bullshit. Israel is well connected internationally, it's rich, it's society is full of highly influential people with worldwide connections and it's supported by well-connected foreigners with even more connections in the highest circles. The only thing Israel will reap is more fucktons of multi-billion dollar military contracts, more foreign investment and more economic influence across the board, while a few politicians and UN functionaries do some perfunctionary huffing and puffing as appropriate for PR.
mikrotikker 3y ago
How is it colonialism? The UK defeated the Ottoman Empire at war and the land was their war booty. Then the land that was historically the home of the jews was returned to Jewish exiles. There has never been a state known as Palestine, and if there was it would be them who colonized the Jews.